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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: chrissey on Thursday 15 September 05 21:53 BST (UK)
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i am also trying to find decendants of my great grandparents dougall mcdougall and agnes crombie who were married in greenock in 1859
on the 1881 cencus agnes was listed as a widow
i know they had at least five children the oldest son was my great grandad hugh mcdougall
any help would be so appriciated
christine
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Hi Christine,
Dougald McDougall and Agnes Crombie were my great, great grandparents. Although your dates do not match mine, they did have a son Hugh born 1863, but he is the 4th born child of 6 children I have found to date. Does this date match with your Hugh?
Regards
Anne
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hi ann
yes my hugh is also 1863 12 april, i also have a martha christina janet and dougald
if its the same hugh he married a sarah kielt or kilton on 15th november 1881
my grandfather dougald was thier first child born 10th december 1881
dougald and agnes married 19th may 1851
love chrissey
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Hi Chrissy,
I thought it would be the same family. My great grandfather was their son, Dougal(l), who was born in Rothesay in 1865. I also have Martha, Christina, Janet and Hugh. They also had a daughter Mary, born about 1853. I am still trying to find Mary's birth but I know she married John Burns in 1874. Dougal married Janet Fulton in 1886 and they had (according to my grandmother, Margaret) 17 children, although only 6 or 7 survived childhood. I have traced about 13 so far. I will attempt to sent you a pm
Many thanks for your info,
Anne
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Well Here is a turn up for the books. I am DS McDougall the 3rd and Hugh McDougall is my Great Grandad. I have traced the line as far back as the 1700's so far (I Think??) so here goes:
Me
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DS McDougall - I McDougall
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DS McDougall - Mary McDougall (McMillan)
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Hugh McDougall - Sarah McDougall (Kealt @ birth then for some reason Kilton Then Kealt on death & it is my Grand dad's sig on death cert I also have the original death cert of Hugh. My Granddad also named his daughter from his first marriage - SARAH KILTON SMALL MCDOUGALL (1921).
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Dougald McDougall - Agnes McDougall (Crombie she died in Greenock poorhouse 1900)
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Duncan McDougall - Janet McDougall (Carmichael)
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John McDougall - Flora ? McDougall (McColl ??)
If all this looks familiar please reply to this and we could swop more info and would be interesting as to where we all fit into this.
Many Thanks and look forward to your reply.
Cheers Dave
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hi dave
hugh mcdougall is also my grt grandad this is just getting better and better
im so pleased to meet another cousin
this is my e mail addy
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you have got further back than ann and i have so far
looking forward to hearing from you
love chrissey
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Hi Dave,
This is great news. I knew there were more of us out there.
I did have Janet's surname (Carmichael) but I have not been able to trace her and Duncan positively beyond the 1851 Census. The nearest I could get to their "place of birth" was Lismore, Argyllshire. Was that correct? I was going to go over there some weekend but the ferry doesn't run on a Sunday so I have to arrange a long weekend if that is indeed the place.
Best wishes,
Anne
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Also spoke to my old man & would either of you be related to any of the following:
Willie / Sarah (McClintock) / Isa (Linney) / Bessie (?) all born McDougall's obviously.
Farther of the above would be David McDougall - Mother would be Jessie (Casement) Died 1924.
Many Thanks Dave
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hi davie
im in touch with sarahs daughter agnes
im dougald s daughter agnes s daughter your grandad was her uncle david
she remembers your dad as young david
love chrissey
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hi dave
all of the people you have named are my mothers cousins as well as your dad
love chrissey
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Hi, I just wanted to make contact about your McDougall connections. I just posted information about my family line but wondered if you had any link with the Eckford/Caverton Mill family?
thanks
Lisa
Wellington
New Zealand
www.rishworth.com
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hi lisa
as yet i havnt come across those names ,but you never know
i had to stop this for a while as my mother was in hospital
if i find anything to help ill be in touch
love chrissey
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Also spoke to my old man & would either of you be related to any of the following:
Willie / Sarah (McClintock) / Isa (Linney) / Bessie (?) all born McDougall's obviously.
Farther of the above would be David McDougall - Mother would be Jessie (Casement) Died 1924.
Many Thanks Dave
Not sure how relevant this is as it was posted some time ago.
But William Mcdougall (doodge) was my grandfather, Isa & Sarah are my great aunts, both of whom are still alive. Bessie i sadly never knew as she died before i was born, but my mother knew her.
As i understand it Jessie McDougall (Casement) died in childbirth when giving birth to Bessie.
I'm not that knowledgeable about my Great Grandparents lives but i know that David McDougall remarried after the death of Jessie, i can give you some information on their son William's family though.
William McDougall married his sister Sarah's best friend, Janet Moore.
They had Six children.
David McDougall (currently living in Morecombe England)
Joseph McDougall (currently living in Greenock)
Billy McDougall (currently living in Manchester England)
Ian McDougall (recently deceased but lived in Port Glasgow)
Alistair McDougal (currently living in Lagos, Nigeria)
Janet McDougall (currently living in Greenock)
Janet McDougall (Moore) is still living at the age of 93 in Greenock, William McDougall sadly died in 2006.
Janet McDougall is my mother, she married my father John Gregson in 1976 and together they have two sons.
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John, your information was fascinating. I am trying to place David McDougall and Jessie. Do you have any idea what approx year he might have ben born, died etc? There are quite a few David's in my tree.
Lisa
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Thanks Lisa!
I made a couple of mistakes though, Jessie Casement didn't die during childbirth, she died from Phlebitis which was brought on by childbirth.
Also William McDougall her son died in 2004.
Like i said I don't know a lot about the lives of David McDougall and Jessie Casement and I'm not sure when they were born, William McDougall their son was born in the 1920's so i would guess that Jessie and David would have been born either in the late 1800's or early 1900's. As for when David McDougall died my mum assures me that he died in the 70's, she's not sure of the date but that it might be 1972.
What i do have however are a few family photos of my grandfathers which we came into possesion of when he died.
Below is a picture of my Grandparents William McDougall (David & Jessie's son) & Janet Moore, this was taken on their wedding day in the late 1930's William and Janet are in the back of the picture, the woman to the left of my Gran is Sarah McDougall (William's sister) the man to the right of my grandfather is Mick, Sarah's husband.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/20111210145719757.jpg/
This is a picture of William McDougall & Janet Moore with their first child David, this picture would have been taken in the mid to late 1940's.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/20111210150727082.jpg/
This is a picture of William McDougall & Janet some years later with their five sons, this was before the birth of my mother so will be in the early to mid 50's.
William and Janet are in the centre.
Back row: David, Joseph.
Front row: Ian, Billy, Alistair.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/20111210160758403.jpg/
This picture was taken in the early 1960's, The in woman in the far left of this picture is William and Janet's son David's first wife and to the right of her is a friend of hers, i am unsure of their names.
The woman in the far right of this picture is Janet Moore (William's wife) the boy beside her is Ian, the girl in the foreground holding the monkey is my mother Janet and beside her is Alistair.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/20111210150633828.jpg/
This picture was taken in the late 1970's and is of my mother Janet (William and Janet's daughter, David and Jessie's grand daughter) and my father John (Gregson)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/20111210151046155.jpg/
And finally this is the picture which i think you will be most interested in.
This picture is of David McDougall and Jessie Casement.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/20120212244046815.jpg/
Hope some of this information helps you, if you any more questions just ask!!!
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i was just wondering is the sarah you are talking about as your grans sister my great aunt sarah the daughter of hugh and sarah chrissey
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Hey Chrissey.
The Sarah i'm talking about (the one in the picture above) is my Grandfathers sister so my grans sister in law, her Maiden name was Sarah McDougall and her Mother and father are Jessie Casement (McDougall) and David McDougall so i don't think it's the same person.
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some of the other names looked familiar so i thought it might be thanks for the reply chrissey