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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: Kieran15 on Tuesday 23 September 25 18:43 BST (UK)
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Hi all, I'm trying to track back from my ancestor John Sanders but I'm getting confused between two families.
John Sanders was b. about 1833 in Hatherleigh and married Thomasin Fursdon in 1853. I have them on the census from 1861-1891, his rough DOB varies from 1830-33. Marriage certificate gives his father as James Sanders.
On the 1891 census there is also another John Sanders b. about 1833 in Hatherleigh.
The 1851 census has two different couples called James and Mary Sanders. One of them has a son called John. The other couple have other children, but in 1841 also have a son called John. I'm trying to establish which James and Mary I want. Can anyone help with this?
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I suspect the JOhn recorded with his parents in 1851 is not yours, as he's a farmers servant. the John Sa(u)nders who remains local is later an ag lab.
Your John was a builder in 1861, so I wonder if he's the John Saunders b c1833 who is apprentice carpenter living with Thomas Chudley in Hatherleigh [Piece 1885, folio 156, p 36]
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Thank you for your reply and for pointing out John in 1851. I have tracked the other John who married Ann. I'm thinking the correct James and Mary are the ones who lived in South Street, Hatherleigh. What is a bit strange is that James died in 1860, yet this isn't mentioned on the marriage certificates of his children and he seems to vary between a farmer, labourer, gardener, carpenter and surveyor which isn't helping with the confusion.
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Whether the father was dead or alive when a child married is not a question that was required to be asked. :)
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Was looking at your post yesterday and forgot to post my findings.
1841
James Sanders Male 40 1801 Devon, England
Mary Sanders Female 35 1806 Devon, England
Ann Sanders Female 10 1831 Devon, England
John Sanders Male 8 1833 Devon, England**
James Sanders Male 5 1836 Devon, England
William Sanders Male 1 1840 Devon, England*
** Believe John was baptised 9th Dec 1832 Hatherleigh as John SAUNDERS
* SANDERS, WILLIAM mmn ESSERY
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in OKEHAMPTON Volume 10 Page 191
Parents James Sanders married Mary Essery 1823 Hatherleigh.
1851 census
James Sanders Head Married Male 50 1801 Lab Hatherleigh, Devon, England
M Sanders Wife Married Female 48 1803 - Jacobstow, Devon, England
J Sanders Son - Male 14 1837 Scholar Hatherleigh, Devon, England
W Sanders Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Hatherleigh, Devon, England
E Sanders Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Hatherleigh, Devon, England
R Sanders Son - Male 3 1848 - Hatherleigh, Devon, England
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Thanks for pointing out the baptism which I'd missed due to the different spelling. I have the birth certificate of R Sanders (Richard) which confirms Mary Essery as the mother. I think we have the right family, I will just look at the marriages of the children of James and Mary again as the change of jobs seems unusual.