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Title: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: nelwild on Monday 22 September 25 14:54 BST (UK)
My 4xgreat grandparents were John Tilly and Jane Ormston.They married in 1st August 1820 Boughton under Blean.
All census returns up to 1861 has Jane born in Kent,apart from the final 1861 entry,which initially has her born in Northumberland;this has been crossed out and replaced with Durham.
More extensive research and DNA matches suggest she was born in Durham,with Ormston/Ormiston being a well known name in the area.
Ive long wondered what caused Jane to move South,and marry a man from Kent.Please can anyone help with that?Any documents or records that might shine a light on it.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 22 September 25 15:38 BST (UK)
One of the witnesses was John Ormston.   :-\

Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: amondg on Tuesday 23 September 25 00:48 BST (UK)
Possible parents
John Ormston and Christian   - father Salt Officer Berwick On Tweed

John bap 4 December 1796 Beadnel, Northumberland

Jane 11 November 1798 Beadnel, Northumberland

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John Tilly and Jane Ormston name their children

James Ormston Tilly 1820   amended name
Charlotte 1822
Christiana  1824  (for her mother?)
John Robert  1828
Jane Ann  1830
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: DCB on Tuesday 23 September 25 09:44 BST (UK)
A few trees have her parents as John and Christian, nee Grey.

One has a baptism as Christiana Grey on 26th December 1767 in Wooler, Northumberland. She was buried in Beadnell, Northumberland, on 7th November 1833, age given as 79.

No indication as to why she moved to Kent. Beadnell is on the coast and some of my wife's ancestors moved from Sunderland to Kent having worked in shipping.
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: nelwild on Tuesday 23 September 25 10:05 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the replies.
I also have the parents down as John Ormston and Christiana Grey.There doesnt seem to be a connection to the sea;Boughton under Blean is a few miles inland,and John Tilly was an ag lab.It looks like her father or brother was there to witness the marriage,but she seems to be the only one who lived in the area.Its a mystery as to how she met him,and why she travelled South to spend her life with him.

Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 23 September 25 16:06 BST (UK)
Maybe she was a servant in the Kent or even London area.  We tend to think that they did not travel far in those days but some of them did.
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: nelwild on Saturday 27 September 25 12:34 BST (UK)
I dont think theres any mention on the census of her being a servant.She seems to stay in the Boughton under Blean area her whole life.Her husband was an agricultural labourer from the area.
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 27 September 25 17:25 BST (UK)
She did not appear on a census prior to her 1820 marriage.  :-\. 
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: nelwild on Monday 29 September 25 20:17 BST (UK)
The census didnt start until 1841.
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Monday 29 September 25 21:54 BST (UK)
  John Tilly is listed as Shoemaker in 1841 and Cordwainer in 1851. You suggest he was ag. lab?
There is a record of John Tilly, master cordwainer taking an apprentice, but that was probably his father.
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 01 October 25 11:44 BST (UK)
Extra info on Janes bapt;
2nd daughter; John native of Berwick-upon-Tweed; Christian native of Etal

Mother Christian buried 07 Nov 1833 age 79 and Father John 05 Jul 1836 age 78
(abode of John Windmill Stead**)

**Where Son John is living 1851 Census
Title: Re: Jane Tilly nee Ormston.
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 01 October 25 15:02 BST (UK)
You asked what made her move South and I suggested that she could have been a servant

I dont think theres any mention on the census of her being a servant.She seems to stay in the Boughton under Blean area her whole life.Her husband was an agricultural labourer from the area.

She married in 1820 so I replied

She did not appear on a census prior to her 1820 marriage.  :-\.