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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: GrahamPC on Saturday 20 September 25 13:07 BST (UK)
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I'm researching my wife's Willment family from Curry Mallet. Francis Wilmont died in 1807, but I have so far not found a birth record for him on any of the usual databases. He married Elizabeth (Betty) Colins in West Hatch in 1798. She was born in 1777, so Francis may have been born around 1775 perhaps. Any clues or suggestions welcome. Thanks
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The marriage register says they were "both of West Hatch" but there is only one Francis baptized in West Hatch, in 1775, and he is said to be illegitimate and aged 27 (Francis Bryant) !
Unless, of course, Francis was just living/working in West Hatch before his marriage; or the vicar/curate forgot to record his baptism!
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Have you got names of all Francis's children? That can often give a clue as to parent's names. Being of a specified parish only means that they resided there for the three weeks prior to marriage, he could have been born anywhere. Wil(l) mo/ent is not a common name. IME rarer surnames can have a large variety of spellings. Have you looked for possibilities under the more common Wil(l)mot(t) ?
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Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes I have the children (William, Nicholas, Samuel, Rachel, Francis and John) and have tried all variations I can think of including Wilmo(t)t, etc.
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you say Betty was born in 1777, is that from her baptism? If so, what were her parent's names? ( to hopefully eliminate them from the list of children
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I can see the Bapts of Samuel 1802 West Hatch, born 1800 and Curry Mallet;
Rachel 1805 born 1803
Francis 1805 born 1805
John 1807
I cant see one for Nicholas??
Burials
St Andrew, West Hatch
RACHELL Willment 03 Aug 1802
SAMUEL Willment 26 Dec 1819 age 69 (1750) abode North Curry*
Interestingly there is a NICHOLAS Willment that married 29 May 1805 St Andrew
Possible Brother for Francis?
To me Rachel/Samuel above may be the Parents of Francis.
All above on FreeREG
Trish :)
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There's an Elizabeth Willment buried West Hatch on 2 Apr 1840 age 84 ( b abt 1756) Another candidate for Francis's mother
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Betty Colins was born in 1777 in Stoke St Mary, daughter of Moses and Betty. Following the death of first husband Francis Wilmont she remarried to James Palfrey. As Elizabeth Palfrey she was buried in Curry Rivel in 1869. The census of 1851 and 1861 confirm her place of birth ast Stoke St Mary in 1777.
Nicholas Wilmont was baptised in West Hatch on 30 June 1799.
Thanks to all for your interest and suggestions
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Thanks for confirming bapt for Nicholas.
Yes I saw the remarriage of Betty :)
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Hi
It's vexing because the Vicars of Curry Mallet and West Hatch are obviously to blame here for their awful record keeping.
The Wilment family of West Hatch and Curry Mallet all seem to fit in and lead back to John and Elizabeth Varrier married 27.4.1704 at CM.
We have their children -Jane Mar 1704,John 5.3.1706,Hugh 22.1.1709 ,Richard 7.8.1812 ,Elizabeth 20.1.1714 ,Ann 20.9.1717-5.1.1718 ,Nicholas 2.11/3.12.1718 ,William 21.4/10.5.1721 and Samuel 10.5./9.6.1725.
https://gw.geneanet.org/jriordon?n=wilmot&oc=&p=john
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/215162154/john-wilmont
The older son Richard marries Sarah Uttermore 9.2.1731 ,has his children in Curry Mallett and is buried there 14.6.1795 .Son Richard 27.12.1746-4.9.1802 is on the same gravestone.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/215169128/richard-wilmont
Richard Senior leaves a Will -Richard Wilment 1795 yeoman Bishop of Wells Wills dd/x/ST/14 .I'm assuming at Somerset Archives.
Mr William Wilment dies 20.11.1807 at CM and his estate pays death duties .I'm assuming Richard's younger brother but with no age given he could be the son of Nicholas born 1743.
William yeoman Curry Mallett T/PH/pro12 Reel 3 No 193
So does your Francis - yeoman Estate Duty Curry Mullet Reel 3 No 60
The estate duties should give the beneficiaries of their estate.
In Reality for Francis that'll be his wife but you never know William's may be more helpful.
I'm assuming Francis is the grandson of Nicholas Wilmot/Wilmont born 1719.
Nicholas married Rachel Mead 27.5.1740
children William 19.1.1743 ,Nicholas 10.3.1744 and Samuel 2.7.1748.
Nicholas and Samuel are both buried at West Hatch.
Samuel 1750-26.12.1819
Nicholas 1745-9.12.1816 married ? Rachel Gould at Fivehead 3.8.1760-daughter Mary 15.10.1760 Fivehead
Either would fit as Francis's father.But the only baptism is Richard 29.6.1776 at Curry Mallett with no father or mother given.Which is unhelpful.
And I agree with Trish that Nicholas is probably Francis's brother.
Getting a copy of the Will for Richard 1795 and death duty records for Francis and William 1808 and 1807 may help .(Francis's from the National Archives is £3.50)
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7158567
William's -https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_fn=William&_ln=Wilmont&_occ=Yeoman&_pl=Curry%20Mallet&_sd=1807&_ed=1807&
Struggling to see what else . Maybe militia lists for Somerset with protentional Wilments in the parish9s) ,which may give an approx age for Francis if he was eligible to called up.
And land records maybe would give what land Francis owned and who had the land previously .
The 1798 Land Redemption tax records gives Francis 2 pieces of land West Hatch.
One he rents off Mrs Collins value £1
The other off John Made 10 shillings.
Next door to this is Nicholas Willment £2 and 12 shillings pieces of land he owns.
Maybe a clue?
Ciderdrinker
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As quoted by Ciderdrinker
Getting a copy of the Will for Richard 1795 and death duty records for Francis and William 1808 and 1807 may help .(Francis's from the National Archives is £3.50)
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7158567
If you register for a National Archives Account (which is free of charge) you should be able to get the will also free of charge.
ADDED It appears to be an Abstract of Administration
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he died intestate, so just an admon naming Betty
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I have the death duty registers for both William and Francis. William's (1807) names Samuel, Francis and Nicholas, but doesn't state relationships. How frustrating!