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The above's maiden name was Kirk I believe, and, at 1939 she was recorded as divorced and had 5 children living with her, one blacked out. I can't find her marriage to Mr Fitzpatrick but the 1st child Winifred Iris was born 16 Jan 1928 in Southwell.
Cr
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The 1928 birth was Fitzgerald not Fitzpatrick according to freebmd
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There was a son Albert born 1925 on the pre war register
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Sorry my mistake should have said Fitzgerald.
Cr
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Can't find Albert's birth on the GRO?
Cr
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I wonder if this is relevant
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8085721
Description:
Divorce Court File: 9575. Appellant: Arthur Webster. Respondent: Lily Webster. Co-respondent: Christopher Fitzgerald. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd].
Lily Kirk possibly married Arthur Webster Dec qtr 1922 Wisbech RD
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Newark Herald 22 January 1927
I Arthur Webster of Long Bennington will not be responsible for any debts contracted by my wife Lily Webster after this date
Signed Arthur Webster
January 22nd 1927
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Lily Kirk & Arthur Webster married or remarried in 1945 - see freebmd Sept qtr 1945
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Although the 1939 register shows Southwell RDC the family were actually living in the village of Sutton on Trent, a distance from Southwell itself.
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Is this the Kirk/Webster marriage :-\
Marriage Dec Qtr 1922
Lily KIRK / Arthur Webster Wisbech 3b 1425
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That is the one I saw Kay :)
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That is the one I saw Kay :)
Sorry Rosie - I missed yours :)
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It is OK, I was agreeing with you as I had not posted the details.
I am wondering whether the one Carole has is the same couple remarrying after her infidelities ;D
It is indexed under Lily Webster and Lily Kirk
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I wonder if this is relevant
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8085721
Description:
Divorce Court File: 9575. Appellant: Arthur Webster. Respondent: Lily Webster. Co-respondent: Christopher Fitzgerald. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd].
Lily Kirk possibly married Arthur Webster Dec qtr 1922 Wisbech RD
That divorce document is dated 1936,
The earliest birth Fitzgerald mmn Kirk I can see is Winifred I in 1928, so she was saying as far back as that time she was married to Christopher Fitzgerald but obviously she wasn't.
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Newark Advertiser 1st July 1936
Went Off with Lodger
Arthur Webster of Milton Street, New Balderton, named as correspondent a man named Fitzgerald who was formerly a lodger at the house.
Petitioner said he was married on 10th December 1922. After a complaint he made about his wife and the lodger Fitzgerald, both left the house in January 1927 and he has not seen his wife since.
Evidence was given that Fitzgerald and respondent were living together at The Ark, Grassthorpe and a decree nisi was pronounced
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Is this her death, the date of birth is as posted in the heading
Lily Webster
Death Age 72
Birth Date 3 Sep 1901
Registration Date Jul 1974
Reg Qtr Jul-Aug-Sep
Reg District Derby
Volume 6
Page 0811
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Thank you all very much excellent research. What a tangled web and what an eventually forgiving man was Arthur.
Are there any details about Christopher Fitzgerald, the lodger?
Cr
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Have you looked for him on the 1921 census or the 1939 register? His occupation should be shown on one of the children's birth certs. A digital copy is £3
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Can't find Christopher at 1921 or 1939.
Incidentally Arthur and Lily had 2 children after her marriage, one died early at 4 months but the son Gerald Albert lived on but can't find him or Arthur at 1939?
Cr
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Did you know when you posted this that she had married Arthur Webster :-\
The birth for 'Albert' that we had been looking for
Birth Mar qtr 1925
Webster Gerald A mmn Kirk
Newark 7b 842
Gerald Albert was with his mother as Albert Fitzgerald in 1939
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Gerald was alive in 1939, he was killed in 1999 in road accident, there are newspaper reports online.
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Thank you very much.
Cr
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What is your connection to the family? If you check freebmd there are very few Christopher Fitzgerald births in Lily’s age range
If you are descended from one of the Fitzgerald children - have you done a DNA test to establish the possibility of him being Irish? If you check the Irish 1911 you will find a number in the right age group.
Another angle is to try & obtain a copy of the divorce petition in case it gives more info but I don’t know whether that is possible
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I'm not a relation, I'm researching the family on behalf of a friend.
Cr