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Title: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: emmygee on Friday 19 September 25 00:55 BST (UK)

Sarah Marsham married Thomas Grout on 18th July 1825 at St Mary’s Church in Fetcham, Surrey. From 1826 to 1842 they had 9 children all of whom were baptised in Great Bookham, Surrey. A paper trail has established that Sarah and Thomas were my paternal 2nd great-grandpatents. Additionally I have 2 DNA cousins who have Sarah and Thomas as our most recent common ancestor (MCRA), and 20 more who share their son James as our MCRA, all confirmed with paper trails.
The 1841 census for Great Bookham, Surrey shows Sarah as not being born in county. The 1851, 61 and 71 censuses state her birth place as being in Bradfield, Berks, and suggest that she was born about 1806. She died in 1878 age 72 yrs.
I cannot find any record of Sarah Marsham prior to her marriage to Thomas Grout.

So far so good.

AncestryDNA suggests that I have 7 dna matches who are descended from Adam Payne Marcham and Ann Spokes (or Stokes), ranging from 35 cM and 3 segments to 9 cM and 1 segment.
AncestryDNA ThruLines suggests that Sarah Marsham is the daughter of Adam and Ann Marcham.
From 1794 to 1803 Adam and Ann had 4 children, all of whom were baptised in Bradfield, Berks. John, Elizabeth, William and James. No Sarah.

The only vaguely close record that I can find is the baptism of a Sarah Marcham born in 1808 in Aldworth, Berks, but her parents were Edward and Charlotte.

The question is who were Sarah Marsham’s parents?

Thanks in advance,
Maurice

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 19 September 25 02:03 BST (UK)

Hi,

I think you are right that Adam and Ann are Sarah's parents, I found this at FindMyPast,


Baptism date:  23 Dec 1804
St Andrew, Bradfield

Sarah 
daughter of
Adam and Ann MARCHAM


I have also found 2 other daughters,

Martha       Bap:12 Oct 1800    Death:  17 Feb 1808
Mary         30 Oct 1808


Regards,
Daisy

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: emmygee on Friday 19 September 25 03:13 BST (UK)

Hi Daisy,

Many thanks for your response with the transcript of Sarah's Baptism / Christening. It looks like that is the best evidence available.

I had looked at Ancestry and found the four children that I listed above. At MyHeritage I found Mary (b. 1808) and George (b. 1807) with links to Family Search. I dumped FindMyPast some years ago, can't remember why.

Thanks again,
Maurice

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: amondg on Friday 19 September 25 06:59 BST (UK)

To add to the children already found

George bap. 10 May 1807 son of Adam and Ann Marcham, St Andrew Bradfield

ADDED
George was buried 1828 age 21

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: amondg on Friday 19 September 25 07:22 BST (UK)

1841 Census Bradfield Berkshire

Adam Marcham 70  ag. lab
Ann Marcham  70

transcribed on ancestry as Macadam

Adam was buried 1853 age 83
Ann was buried 1847 age 78

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: emmygee on Friday 19 September 25 07:41 BST (UK)

Thanks for the 1941 census reference.
What on earth made you look for Macadam?
Cheers
Maurice

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: amondg on Friday 19 September 25 08:17 BST (UK)

I didn't I looked for Adam M*   Bradfield Berkshire

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: emmygee on Friday 19 September 25 10:10 BST (UK)

DOH! Why didn't I think of that?

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: ribbo39 on Saturday 20 September 25 11:04 BST (UK)

In case you don't  have this entry;
Bradfield St.Andrew, Berks;

Adam Marcham - m - Ann Spokes (botp) 10-2-1794
wits;
George Jennings (x), Joseph Medcaff.

The nearest I can find for Ann is;
Hannah Spokes bapt. 1-9-1776  (d/o John & Elizabeth)

I haven't seen any entries for Adam yet.

There is a baptism for a Sara Marcham 3-5-1776 in Moulsford St.John.
not sure this is relevant but only a couple for parishes away from Bradfield

Alan

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: emmygee on Saturday 20 September 25 11:26 BST (UK)

Alan,

Thanks for the marriage info for Adam & Ann, where did you find the info? The date ties up nicely with the birth of her first child. I have seen Ann's surname as being Stokes or Spokes.
daisypetal pointed me to a baptism of Sarah in 1804 at Bradfield.

Thanks again
Maurice

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: ribbo39 on Saturday 20 September 25 11:35 BST (UK)

Maurice,

I was looking at the transcripts the Berks FHS issued on CD for both baptisms and marriages.

They are quite exhaustive but a few parishes are not (yet) included.

Alan

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: emmygee on Saturday 20 September 25 20:37 BST (UK)

Hi Alan,
Thanks. I looked at the BerksFHS site but couldn't justify buying the CD, not many of my ancestors come from that area. Their transcriptions are available at FindMyPast but I don't have a sub with them.
Cheers
Maurice

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 20 September 25 21:01 BST (UK)

Wondering is this is Adam, mis-enumerated on 1851?

Abraham Marchan    80    Widower, p[oor] relied (ag lab)  b Aldworth

Address: Standford Rd, Bradfield

Piece 1691, folio 124, page 40

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 20 September 25 21:08 BST (UK)

Adam Marcham

Baptism    28 Apr 1771 Aldworth,
Father    John Marcham
Mother    Elizth.

Title: Re: Sarah Marsham b. c1806, Bradfield, Berks
Post by: emmygee on Sunday 21 September 25 11:14 BST (UK)

Thanks Mabel, certainly looks like him. I'll have a look in the morning.