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Title: What is this uniform.
Post by: Blairvadach on Thursday 18 September 25 14:43 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help with identifying this uniform?
Thanks
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: AllanUK on Thursday 18 September 25 15:20 BST (UK)
Very poor image, but it may be the collar badge depicting the King's (Liverpool) Regiment
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: BarbW on Sunday 05 October 25 16:28 BST (UK)
Quote from: Blairvadach on Thursday 18 September 25 14:43 BST (UK)
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Can anyone help with identifying this uniform?
Thanks

There is a Facebook group for the King's Liverpool Regiment as this may be the correct uniform as suggested by AllanUK.  The owners have extensive knowledge and personal memorabilia of the KLR.
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Sunday 05 October 25 16:35 BST (UK)
 

Do you have a Name for the Person ?
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: alan o on Sunday 05 October 25 18:28 BST (UK)
He is not in the Kings but the Fife and Forfar Yeomanry

The badge is of the Thane in armour on a horse.
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: alan o on Sunday 05 October 25 18:31 BST (UK)
The Kings collar badge for comparison.
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: Blairvadach on Sunday 05 October 25 18:56 BST (UK)
Hi Allan
I don’t have very much information about this fellow.
He’s my wife’s uncle. He was born in 1919 in Glasgow.
This is as much as I know….
Thanks for your help.


Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: alan o on Monday 06 October 25 09:18 BST (UK)
His uniform is pre 1940 as it was replaced by battledress.  As a Fife and Forfar Yeoman he was in a Scottish Territorial Army unit which ties in with his birthplace.  The clothing and haircut match the 1930s.  Have you tried to find them on the 1939 register? 
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: Blairvadach on Monday 06 October 25 09:40 BST (UK)
Hi Allan
Is the 1939 register not just for England?
Thanks
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 06 October 25 09:47 BST (UK)
The 1939 Register for Scotland is not available online, but is held by the National Records of Scotland.
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: alan o on Monday 06 October 25 11:07 BST (UK)
The Fife and Forfar Yeomanry recruited in the North around Aberdeen, Dundee and Inverness.  They were only a company between the wars but were raised back up to regimental strength in 1939 and formed a second regiment in the same year.  As your man was 20 in 1939 then this may be when he volunteered.  The fact he is wearing a pre war tunic suggests this was taken in 1939 before battledress was issued.  It does suggest he joined the Territorials rather than was conscripted.  This means he was probably living in their recruiting area.  Does that tie in with anything you know?

The 1st F&F Yeomanry were at Dunkirk whilst the 2nd did not see action until France in 1944.  His service record would tell you which one he was in and where he fought.  They were an armoured recconaissance regiment based in armoured cars and light tanks.
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: Blairvadach on Monday 06 October 25 11:26 BST (UK)
Hi Allan
I know very little about Martin.
Apparently he “disappeared”.
I have found a possible marriage and death ( don’t have the certificates)

There’s a long story behind the Burns family…..it was quite unique….his parents were sentenced for bigamy in 1925. His mother Marjory had married in 1908 to Toby Wilders. He was an Irish showman.
James Burns ( Martins dad was present at the 1908 marriage and he also worked in the fairgrounds)They separated soon after the marriage. Marjory had 10 children.
I have plenty information on most of the other children……can’t find any death details for Martin’s father.

Cheers
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: alan o on Monday 06 October 25 12:03 BST (UK)
Have you considered he went to France in 1940 and was a casualty? 
Title: Re: What is this uniform.
Post by: Blairvadach on Monday 06 October 25 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi Allan

He certainly was a man of mystery!

The other thing people said about him was he looked like the king!