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Joseph Matthews married Charlotte Storey on 6-1-1883 at Church of Michael & John.
Joseph was a Jeweller/Watchmaker, the couple gave 19 Sth William St as their address on Marriage certificate.
Joseph's father was named as Godfrey Matthews (Watchmaker)
Charlotte's father John Storey (Plasterer)
On 5th November 1883, Frances Matthews (female) was born to the couple at and address 48 William St (Sth).
On 6th October 1885, Mary Teresa Matthews was born at 66 William St (Sth)
On 30 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple across the city at 92 Seville Place, but the 66 Sth William st address was also on the birth cert.
This is where the trail goes cold, I have searched the 1901-1911 census for the family starting in Dublin and later countrywide without success, I have searched Irish marriage records for both girls circa 1900-1930s without success, also death records.
I have also searched death records for both parents without success.
My friend believes that John Joseph is his Grandfather who states was a 'foundling' and later went on to enlist in Merchant Navy/Royal navy circa 1902, but a family member recently recalled a mention of him training as a young boy as a 'watchmaker', my friend has his Navy records, which leave parents section 'blank' and occupation as 'dairyboy'.
Having recently found what we believe may be his birth record in 1887 and the 'disappearance' of who we think are possibly his family, I think it is fair to presume that the whole family (except John)may have emigrated, possibly to England or further afield, sometime between 1887 and 1901.
I would be really very grateful for any insight or further info on this family, who my friend in Canada has been researching for the past 20 years.
Thanking you all in anticipation.
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On 30 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple across the city at 92 Seville Place, but the 66 Sth William st address was also on the birth cert.
John Joseph born 13 September at 66 South William Street. The informant on the birth record, Ellen Pakenham lived at 92 Seville Place. #243
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1887/02539/1940253.pdf
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On 30 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple across the city at 92 Seville Place, but the 66 Sth William st address was also on the birth cert.
John Joseph born 13 September at 66 South William Street. The informant on the birth record, Ellen Pakenham lived at 92 Seville Place. #243
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1887/02539/1940253.pdf
Apologies for my error,and thank you for the correction, I was thrown by the Seville place addition and was unable to transcribe the 'informant'
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Joseph Matthews married Charlotte Storey on 6-1-1883 at Church of Michael & John.
Joseph was a Jeweller/Watchmaker, the couple gave 19 Sth William St as their address on Marriage certificate.
Joseph's father was named as Godfrey Matthews (Watchmaker)
Charlotte's father John Storey (Plasterer)
On 5th November 1883, Frances Matthews (female) was born to the couple at and address 48 William St (Sth).
On 6th October 1885, Mary Teresa Matthews was born at 66 William St (Sth)
On 13 September 1887, John Joseph was born to the couple at 66 Sth William St, Ellen Pakenham 92 Seville Place present at birth.
This is where the trail goes cold, I have searched the 1901-1911 census for the family starting in Dublin and later countrywide without success, I have searched Irish marriage records for both girls circa 1900-1930s without success, also death records.
I have also searched death records for both parents without success.
My friend believes that John Joseph is his Grandfather who states was a 'foundling' and later went on to enlist in Merchant Navy/Royal navy circa 1902, but a family member recently recalled a mention of him training as a young boy as a 'watchmaker', my friend has his Navy records, which leave parents section 'blank' and occupation as 'dairyboy'.
Having recently found what we believe may be his birth record in 1887 and the 'disappearance' of who we think are possibly his family, I think it is fair to presume that the whole family (except John)may have emigrated, possibly to England or further afield, sometime between 1887 and 1901.
I would be really very grateful for any insight or further info on this family, who my friend in Canada has been researching for the past 20 years.
Thanking you all in anticipation.
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I noticed on 1901 Census there was no 48 Sth William St? perhaps demolished or integrated with other premises?
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If you have access to Ancestry there are several trees for this family with photos
John Joseph Matthews died 30 December 1955 Dublin South this John is with his family on the 1911 census St Patrick's Road Drumcondra Dublin
John Mathews aged 24 single and occupation painter
Rosie
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If you have access to Ancestry there are several trees for this family with photos
John Joseph Matthews died 30 December 1955 Dublin South this John is with his family on the 1911 census St Patrick's Road Drumcondra Dublin
John Mathews aged 24 single and occupation painter
Rosie
Thank you Rosie, is there a mention of Charlotte? and or their daughters?
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Charlotte remarried John Bouch.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=1dd9f6479b-48385
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You would need to check these out
Frances Ellen Mathews death 1963 Dublin
Mary Teresa Mathews 18/9/1887 Dublin
Charlotte Anne Mathews ( McGlynn ) 31 /12/1961 Dublin
Rosie
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You would need to check these out
Frances Ellen Mathews death 1963 Dublin
Mary Teresa Mathews 18/9/1887 Dublin
Charlotte Anne Mathews ( McGlynn ) 31 /12/1961 Dublin
Rosie
Death
SS
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1887/06206/4775417.pdf
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Charlotte Matthews otherwise Storey married John Bonch - 27 December 1890. Both living at 66 South William Street.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10717/5906907.pdf
Death of John Matthews - 28 December 1955 at Meath Hospital. #352
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1955/04423/4154516.pdf
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Charlotte remarried John Bouch.
Charlotte Bouch (a widow) and family in 1911 census.
House 28 in St. Patrick's Road (Drumcondra, Dublin).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Drumcondra/St__Patrick_s_Road/28216/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000031650/
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Charlotte Anne Mathews ( McGlynn ) 31 /12/1961 Dublin
Charlotte Mathews married Charles McGlynn - 29 November 1911
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09967/5623775.pdf
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Death of John Bouch 21st March 1901. address as per 1911 census
Date of 1901 ireland census: Sunday, 31 March 1901.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05738/4619729.pdf
Cannot find family though in 1901?
SS
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Charlotte Mathews married Charles McGlynn - 29 November 1911
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09967/5623775.pdf
Charles and Charlotte (Matthews) McGlynn had four children.
George Mc Glynn - 23 May 1912
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1912/01493/1606939.pdf
Maurice Mc Glynn - 16 March 1916
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1917/01305/1539584.pdf
Gertrude Mc Glynn - 7 January 1917
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1917/01305/1539584.pdf
Charles Fergus Mc Glynn - 3 May 1920
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1920/01216/1505929.pdf
Edited to Add:
George McGlynn was the informant for his mother's death - 3/1/1962
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1962/04310/4111657.pdf
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Thank you all so much, great informative response as per usual.
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Charlotte Anne Mathews ( McGlynn ) 31 /12/1961 Dublin
Charlotte Mathews married Charles McGlynn - 29 November 1911
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09967/5623775.pdf
Just adding, Charlotte Mathews born on 14 July 1889 at 66 William Street, Dublin. Her mother was the informant.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1889/02465/1915539.pdf
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Charlotte (Mathews) McGlynn
Birth: 1889
Death: 31 Dec 1961 (aged 71–72)
Burial: Deansgrange Cemetery
Deans Grange, County Dublin, Ireland
Plot: St. Brigid/B/13
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/257460667/charlotte-mcglynn
Charles McGlynn
Birth: 1888
Death: 18 Apr 1965 (aged 76–77)
Burial: Deansgrange Cemetery
Deans Grange, County Dublin, Ireland
Plot: St. Brigid/B/13
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/257460150/charles-mcglynn
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Hi
This looks like the 1944 Marriage of George McGlynn, son of Charles and Charlotte. See:-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1944/08764/5167550.pdf
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Possible McGlynn/Lane births-
(Male) McGlynn
Mother's Name: Lane
Date: January-March 1945
Place: Dublin South, County Dublin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1CR-YNP?lang=en
(Female) McGlynn
Mother's Name: Lane
Date: April-June 1948
Place: Dublin North, County Dublin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F18F-2MJ?lang=en