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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cambridgeshire => England => Cambridgeshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Savage398234678 on Saturday 13 September 25 13:25 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone,
I’m currently working on a family history book for my grandfather and am tracing one branch of the Page family of Ely, Cambridgeshire. I’m hoping someone here might be able to help me uncover more information about them.
The line I’m focusing on is:
Henry Page and his wife Alice Page
Their son Herbert Page, born 1883 in Ely
Herbert’s son Harry Page
I’m particularly interested in any records, photographs, or stories relating to Herbert, his father Henry, or his son Harry. Even small pieces of information — family anecdotes, mentions in local archives or newspapers, or references in community collections — would be incredibly helpful for bringing their story to life.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this, and for any help you might be able to offer.
Best regards,
Max Savage
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Welcome to Rootschat!
By using FreeBMD you can see that Henry Page married Alice Wiseman in 1873 Ely Cambridgeshire.
By using Family Search, which is a free website, you will find the family of Henry Page, there were 6 sons and one daughter born to the family, and in 1891, son Herbert was 7 years old, and the youngest child at that time.
Also using Family Search there is a Harry Page married to Violet Malyon in 1932, which will also be on FreeMD, but I did not check that one.
Regards.
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Cambridge Weekly News
Cambridge, Cambridgeshire.
Fri, 29 Mar 1901
Page 8
https://www.newspapers.com/article/cambridge-weekly-news/180977079/
Sandra
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Ely Men Killed At The Front (Herbert Page)
Cambridge Weekly News
Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
Fri, 10 Mar 1916
Page 2
https://www.newspapers.com/article/cambridge-weekly-news/180977204/
Cambridge Weekly News
Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
Fri, 28 Jul 1916
Page 3
https://www.newspapers.com/article/cambridge-weekly-news/180977285/
Sandra
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Herbert Page 9 aged 89 years - passed 1998)
Cambridge Evening News
Cambridge, Cambridgeshire
Sat, 10 Jan 1998
Page 6
https://www.newspapers.com/article/cambridge-evening-news/180977612/
Sandra
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29 March 1901 Cambridge Independent Press
Cruelty to children at Ely
Paraphrasing:
Henry Page labourer of Willow Walk Ely was charged with cruelty and neglecting his children, Susan age 11, Thomas age 9, Charles age 7, Sarah age 6 and Nellie age 1.
Able bodied man had served with the Suffolk Militia from January to October last year, when the Militia disbanded he received £7 he gave his wife none of it, she earned 10/- shillings per week as a charwoman, he demanded very last copper. He had done no work since and ill treated his wife and children, she was forced to live apart from him.
He was given 6 months hard labour.
ADDED
Sorry Sandra you had already posted a link
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GRO Index
Children of Henry Page and Alice nee Wiseman - all registered Ely
Henry 1874
William Robert 1875
Emma 1877
Arthur 1879
John 1881
Herbert 1883
Robert 1884
Susannah 1886
Sarah 1888 died 1889 age 15 months
Thomas 1890
Charles 1893
Sarah 1895
Ellen 1899 (aka Helen/ Nellie) died 1934
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from De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour
PAGE, HERBERT, Drummer, No. 9432, 2nd Battn. (12th Foot) The Suffolk Regt.; s. of Harry Page, by his wife, Alice; b. Ely, co. Cambridge, 1885; educ. Boys' National School there; joined the Militia of his county in 1898, and served in the Reserve until his time expired; France in Aug. 1914; was wounded in the foot at the 1st Battle of Ypres the following Oct., and sent to England for six months, when he joined the 1st Battalion Band, and was killed in action 2 March, 1916, in the action at St. Eloi. Buried there. He was a bomb-thrower, and is believed to have been killed whilst engaged in the duty. He m. at Ely, co. Cambridge, Eliza (Springhead Lane, Ely), dau. of Charles Woodbine and had five children: Henry, b. 29 May, 1910; Charles Henry b 29 May 1910; Harry, b. 14 June, 1912; Felixstowe, b. (posthumous) 1 Sept. 1916, and Alice, b. 5 May, 1914.
Some additional points:
1) The daughter named here as Felixstowe, b 1 Sept 1916 was baptised September 20th at Holy Trinity, Ely, on September 20th 1916. Her full name at baptism was St. Eloi Souvenir Felixstowe; parents Herbert and Eliza Page, Springhead Lane, father's occupation: soldier (killed).
2) The following two entries in the register are for baptisms—on the same day—of Florence May Palmer (b June 1914) and Emma Jane (May 10, 1906), daurs of John William Palmer and Mary Jane Woodbine, address Springhead Lane
3) In 1921 the entry immediately preceding Eliza Page and her 5 children (and one boarder) is for Charles Woodbine 68, his daughter Mary Jane Woodbine (single) and his two grandaughters Emma Jane, 15 and Florence May 9 (both have 'father dead")
Modified: added Charles Henry 1910 to my transcription
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The 1920s map linked below shows where the Page family (and Eliza's father Charles Woodbine were living in 1921. In the centre of the linked map view you will see an L-shaped group of buildings in the corner of a plot labelled with 95 and .435. By comparing the 1911 census with the 1911 Valuation Survey records (dating from October 1913 for this site) I have linked the 1911 census sequence of Smith, Woodbine, Whatley and Carpenter households in Springhead Lane to a 1913 group of four cottages with the same occupants and address.
In the survey, for the purposes of description, the four households have been grouped and described as:
Old B & T 4 rm cottage, 2 WCs for 4 cots
& garden
Although this says 4 rooms, the 1911 census says 3 rooms for each household. I *guess* that B & T means brick and thatch.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/114485758#zoom=5.8&lat=2150&lon=12547&layers=BT
There is a further detail o be gleaned from these records to add to something mentioned in my reply #7. I mentioned that there were two baptisms for daughters of Mary Jane Woodbine who was presumably the sister of Eliza Page (Woodbine). These are linked to a father's name John William Palmer. In the 1911 census the Carpenter family in the group of four cottages is:
Harriet Carpenter 47, widow
John William Palmer, 26, son
plus four other children all named Carpenter.
In the Valuation Survey the occupier of the Carpenter cottage is listed as J W Carpenter. I assume that this is actually John William Palmer. Perhaps he was the child of Hannah's first marriage? But I imagine that this is getting too far away from your interests.
Added: Palmer was Hannah’s maiden name.
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Herbert's brothers in trouble.
8 February 1907: Cambridge Independent Press
ELY BOYS IN MISCHIEF.
At the Ely Petty Sessions yesterday (Thursday), four Ely boys, James Bidwell (18), Charles Everitt (14), Charles Page (14), and Thomas Page (16), were charged with trespassing on the G.E.R. at the Ely North Junction on January 12. Bidwell and Thomas Page pleaded guilty, and Charles Everitt and Charles Page not guilty.
Mr. R. R. Corser, solicitor for the G. E. R., appeared for the prosecution. In opening the case, he remarked that generally boys were a nuisance to the Company. They made the sidings a playground, got in and out of carriages, and pushed the trucks about; and as these sidings joined the main lines, the consequences of their mischief might cause considerable trouble. For these reasons, proceedings had been taken against the defendants.
P.C Loft and Inspector Hall of the G.E.R. Police gave evidence as to warning notices published at Ely station.
Alfred Dockerill, a G.E.R. employee, stated that at 11-40 a.m. he saw Thomas Page and Charles Everitt on the Roswell Pits Crossing. When they saw him they ran away to the Kill-lane Crossing. The defendants afterwards returned and stood against the carriage trucks. He asked them what they were doing, and Page said they were going to push a truck back to where they got it from.
P.C. Lofts stated that from instructions received from Mr. Starling, stationmaster, he went to Springhead-lane Level Crossing. There were several lads there, and he saw some of them bending down, evidently putting something on the line just before the 11-5 train from London passed along. He waited for them at a certain fence, and noticed that Bidwell had a catapult in his hand. He asked him if he had been catching rabbits. Bidwell replied in the afirmative, saying he had caught three. They all treated the matter as a joke. Witness told them he had got all their names, whereupon all scampered off, but he caught Bidwell, who was the biggest of the lot. He found that nails had been placed on the line, and also some granite.
The Chairman pointed out to the defendants the seriousness of the charge against them. James Bidwell and Thomas Page were fined 2s. 6d. and costs 9s. 6d., and Charles Page and Charles Everitt 2s. 6d. and costs 12s. 6d.—Each of the defendants said they could not pay, whereupon the Bench allowed a week, or in default of payment seven days' imprisonment each.