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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: Moonstar36 on Friday 12 September 25 16:28 BST (UK)
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AM trying to find out why some of the Redshaw's came over to SA
I have a Jonathan Redshaw b1815, Kilham Yorkshire who went May 1850. His brother William b1823 died there in 1886, But when he went I dont know other than of his children some were born in SA after 1855. One of his daughters Margaret Ann was b1855 Kilham and is my GGM. She married a Charles Deacon out there and then came back to England with him.
The parents of Jonathan and William were Thomas Redshaw and Margaret Bessy Frost
TIA
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AM trying to find out why some of the Redshaw's came over to SA
What were their occupations?
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In 1851 William Redshaw aged 30 b Kilham is a labourer & married - census entry shows "wife & children slept at her mothers in Kilham & were taken there"
Margaret had no middle name of Ann
REDSHAW, MARGARET mmn WREGGLESWORTH
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 235
Marriages Sep 1848
Redshaw William Driffield 23 64
Wrigglesworth Mercy
In addition to Margaret son Jonathon was b 1848 & Joseph 1853
No obvious 1861 entry so presumably emigrated between 1855-1861
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You can view a probate record at FamilySearch which lists births. I'm assuming you are registered with them? It's free.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99LS-59Q1-C?view=index&cc=2573604&lang=en&groupId=
Margaret's wedding register entry
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDC2-DC2?lang=en
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Jonathan and William were both labourers, but Kilham is a farming area so it would have been land work
I have details of their birth, marriages and family its the puzzle of their emigration
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https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/South_Africa_Emigration_and_Immigration
I just searched surname Redshaw
Is this them 1858 aboard the Phantom?
https://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/dosearchArrivals.pl
Trish :)
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:) :)
THANK YOU Trish, thats Jonathan and his wife I didnt know about that site thank you!!
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Have found this list on family search
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u05/
Have had a look for you and found some references for the Redshaw's, using the link have listed the image number and link so you can view the records
8117318
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u08/
8019235
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u07/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u06/
Hopefully you have an account now and they will be free to view.
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wow THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!
That was so kind and helpful and I am over the moon thank you!!
:) :) :)
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It would appear Jonathan died in Natal South Africa in 1867. The file lies in the archives at Pietermaritzburg Natal South Africa.
DEPOT NAB SOURCE MSCE TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 4/57 PART 1 DESCRIPTION REDSHAW, JONATHAN. (INTESTATE ESTATE).
STARTING 18670000 ENDING 18730000.
This could be his son. TAB is in Johannesburg.
DEPOT TAB SOURCE MHG TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 0 SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 42017 PART 1 DESCRIPTION REDSHAW, JONATHAN WILLIAM.
STARTING 19180000 ENDING 19180000.
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Which part of South Africa did they go to? I have a daughter in law from there, whose ancestor went from East Yorkshire to Natal in 1850. There may have been an emigration scheme.
(Another post has just beaten me which seems to confirm the Natal connection.)
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Top of the Hill. Yes in 1850 there were a number of emigration schemes from England to Natal.
In 1850, English emigration to South Africa occurred through a combination of private and government-backed schemes, such as the Byrne Emigration and Colonization Company, which facilitated settlers for economic opportunity and colonial expansion, particularly to Natal. Assisted migration aimed to settle the colonies with European labour. I am distantly related to the Smiths from Bedale.
The Haidee ship arrived in Natal, South Africa, in 1850, carrying settlers from Yorkshire, England, to establish the village of York Wesleyan. The ship's passengers included the Smith family, whose daughter, Catherine Jane Smith, married Charles Bird Boast.
This could be William Redshaw`s sons grave https://www.graves.eggsa.org/gauteng/GERMISTON_Urban/Primrose/Primrose_main/R%20-%20Vanne%20__%20Surnames%20-%20R/Re/127.JPG
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I have a feeling the Redshaws arrived on the Haidee. Looking for a passenger list. No Redshaw family on the Haidee.
Some info on the Byrne immigration program. https://www.sa-passenger-list.za.net/haideesettlers.php#:~:text=This%20page%20is%20dedicated%20to,a%20comfortable%20and%20prosperous%20look.
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Here is Jonathan grave at Pietermaritzburg Natal South Africa https://www.graves.eggsa.org/kwazulunatal/PIETERMARITZBURG-Urban/CommercialRdCem/R-surnames/IMG_0352.JPG
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Here is Williams grave at Ladysmith which is 2 hours inland from Pietermaritzburg Natal South Africa https://graves.eggsa.org/kwazulunatal/LADYSMITH-Urban/Ladysmith-Main-cemetery/R%20-%20Vanne%20__%20Surnames%20-%20R_001/Ladysmith+nuwe+gedeelte+777.jpg
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Right here is a list of Redshaw family who arrived at the port of Durban Natal in 1850 and the name of the ship they arrived on. I hope this fills some of the gaps in your family history. List is here https://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/dosearchArrivals.pl
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Some excellent replies for you there Moonstar36.
Good luck with it all :)
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absolutely BRILLIANT!!! THANK YOU EVRYONE!
Yes my Redshaw's came from Kilham. My GGM was one of them out there..but she returned to England following her marriage to my GGF who was a soldier.
Often wonder if I would be there now instead of here! :
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Here is Williams grave at Ladysmith which is 2 hours inland from Pietermaritzburg Natal South Africa https://www.graves.eggsa.org/kwazulunatal/LADYSMITH-Urban/Ladysmith-Main-cemetery/R%20-%20Vanne%20__%20Surnames%20-%
i tried the link but returned a bad request.. :(
Ladysmith rings a bell for William ....
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Moonstar 36 I fixed the link, it should work now https://graves.eggsa.org/kwazulunatal/LADYSMITH-Urban/Ladysmith-Main-cemetery/R%20-%20Vanne%20__%20Surnames%20-%20R_001/Ladysmith+nuwe+gedeelte+777.jpg
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Had you checked his Probate record - see reply #3 - it states "Died 4 Aug 1886 Ladysmith"
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well with the aid of all this help and my viewing it all and then checking the last bit about probate I started to search the records on FamilySearch as I had not realised about the Natal records there and have just now discovered that one of my great great aunts had two husbands!! so now of on another escapade...does this searching ever end..NO! and thank goodness it doesnt its just so captivating! THANK YOU .... :)
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