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Title: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Thursday 11 September 25 16:47 BST (UK)


Can some kind soul locate a baptism for James Hollick, born c1801 in Shippon, Berkshire, please?  He's living in Highworth, Wiltshire by 1841 but I can't find any records relating to his birth family.

And if, in the process, you find a sibling called Henry I'd be extra delighted.

Thank you  ;D 
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: amondg on Thursday 11 September 25 17:26 BST (UK)
The witness to the marriage of James Hollick to Mary Emmett 24 Feb. 1823 was John Hollick

The witness to the marriage of Henry Hollick to Catherine Barnes 11 Oct. 1822  was John Hollick.

Is John a brother or a father, could be a cousin?
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Thursday 11 September 25 17:58 BST (UK)
Ooh, good catch!  I hadn't noticed that so thank you!  Now, I've no idea who he is but it's another clue. 

My ancestor is Catherine Barnes, married to Henry Hollick.  James is the father of another James Hollick I came across on the tree of a DNA match.  All three were in Highworth, Wiltshire at the same time but James snr says he was born in Berkshire, Henry born c1795, claims he was born in Highworth.  If they are related it would double the DNA connection with this match.  I can't find baptisms/parents for James or Henry.

Thank you again, every little bit helps  ;D
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: amondg on Thursday 11 September 25 18:04 BST (UK)
Henry was bap. 11 May 1800 born 9 May 1800 son of John and Susannah Hollyoak at Highworth

Name must have originally been Hollyoak then Hollick

Others
John born 20 September 1802 bap. 24 Oct.  (he marries another Susan she dies 1863)
George born 10 December 1804 bap. 20 January 1805 -
George  born 12 August 1808 bap. 16 Oct.

1841 Census Highworth
John Hollick 65 Ag Lab    - he was buried 16 January 1850 age 73 of Highworth.
Susan          70
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Thursday 11 September 25 18:14 BST (UK)
Thank you, that's really helpful and much appreciated  ;D
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: amondg on Friday 12 September 25 03:05 BST (UK)
Do you have these newspaper articles?  As they are both children of Henry and Catherine it could be

a general inquiry or to do with his estate.

Bath and Chronicle Weekly, dated 5 September 1895
Hallock or Hollick or Hallick, Frank or Francis widow or children of born at Highworth,  Co. Wilts Killed in a railway accident near London upwards of 25 years ago. Advert "Times" August 13, 1895

Hallock, Hollick, Hillock, James or representatives of, left Highworth, Co Wilts about 20 years ago, as is believed for Portsmouth, Army  Pensioner. Advert "Times" August 13 1895 
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Friday 12 September 25 07:41 BST (UK)
Interesting!  I didn't have those but will look for them now - a few more clues!  Thank you once more, amondg!  I've been focusing on the origins of 'James of Berkshire' aspect as that's an important question right now although everything discovered is valuable.

Thank you  ;D
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 12 September 25 09:27 BST (UK)
Also Alice Hollyock daughter of John And Susannah
Baptised 24 Feb 1811 Highworth

She is with her mother in 1851 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZJ-GGK?lang=en
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Friday 12 September 25 10:25 BST (UK)
Thank you, Neil1961. ;D

You're all kindly adding to my Hollick knowledge for Wiltshire but this post was about a potential Berkshire Hollick - will the mods feel obliged to move this thread?  :o Anyone who can work out who James's parents are would make an old girl very happy ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: amondg on Friday 12 September 25 16:31 BST (UK)
Have you contacted the Berkshire Historical Society or the Berkshire Family History Society?

You may have better luck.
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Friday 12 September 25 18:39 BST (UK)
I did contact the FHS but no joy.  I haven't found John snr and Susannah's marriage either and went down a rabbit hole following Alice before realising the poor soul had been buried as an infant.  I'll keep looking but thank you again, everyone.  Your help as always is appreciated.
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: amondg on Saturday 13 September 25 00:09 BST (UK)
I noticed that Shippon and or Shipton are not in Oxfordshire!
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: amondg on Saturday 13 September 25 00:15 BST (UK)
There is an Alice who belongs to someone

John Hollick married Susan Speck at Hannington 1828 witness Alice Hollick and James Stone

George Hollick married Eliza Barnes 1829 at Highworth witness Alice Hollick and William Barnes

They appear to be sons of John and Susanna so perhaps another Alice was born later after 1811.
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: amondg on Saturday 13 September 25 00:27 BST (UK)
FindMyPast is transcriptions only of Highworth baptisms.

Have you checked the originals to see if Alice was bap. and buried on 24 February 1811 (born 1 Feb.)

Hollyoak not Hollick or if it is a transcription error.
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 13 September 25 00:29 BST (UK)
........... so perhaps another Alice was born later after 1811.

Seems likely, as there is an Alice with her mother in 1851 (as per my earlier reply) and also 1861 census.
Title: Re: James Hollick - Shippon, Berkshire 1801
Post by: Norfolk Nan on Saturday 13 September 25 07:20 BST (UK)
All true!  Family Search has entries for a baptism and a burial for Alice on the same day, but there is an Alice with a mother Susannah in later census so it's possible the next baby girl was Alice - that ones birth is appropriate.  And an Alice was a witness at a wedding, as pointed out. 

Shippen is in Berkshire and I can't find a baptism for James there.  Nor can I find a marriage for John and Susannah, when/if I do all may make sense.

Another reason for dithering about Alice was that mum Susannahs' place of birth varied from census to census.  In 1871 it was somewhere in Middlesex but I discovered there is also place in Wiltshire, more likely, but how did Middlesex creep in? 

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts and suggestions  ;D