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Good morning everyone :)
I am looking into my Great x4 Grandparents James Anderson & Jane Lorimer. They are the parents to my Great x3 Grandfather Thomas Anderson. I can not seem to find pretty much anything about them, I was never able to find a Birth/Baptism record for Thomas, but he was born around 1851. in 1872 Thomas Married Mary Jane Morrison in Aberdeen in a Church of Scotland ceremony, and parents was listed as James Anderson (Shoemaker) and Jane Lorimer, neither parents is listed as "Deceased". In 1907 Thomas died in Dundee, and parents are listed as James Anderson "Ship Yard Labourer" and Jane Lorimer, both listed as "Deceased". I have no record of either ones Birth, Death, or marriage record, attached I have what I believe to be Thomas in the 1851 Census in Aberdeen, where James Anderson (Father) is not listed, but Jean Lorimer to me seems like it could be Jane Lorimer. I did see that someone had listed the mother of Jane Lorimer to be "Mary" on Ancestry, which would also match with that census, I do see that it says Jean is unmarried in the census, but there are 2 Anderson boys listed as being "Grandsons" to Mary.
Kind regards,
Jake
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This is the 1851 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59026834e9379091b1d0232f/thomas-anderson-1851-aberdeenshire-old-machar-1849-?locale=en
The one you have posted above must be 1861?
If Thomas is 2 in 1851, he was born about 1849.
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I think you mean 1861 Census?
1851 we have;
Jean Anderson 37 Head Weavers Wife born St Andrews, fifeshire
James Anderson 8 Son
John Anderson 5 Son
Thomas Anderson 2 Son
Mary Lorimer 55 Lodger
Elizabeth Lorimer 19 Daur Lodger (Lodger)
1881 Jane Anderson is with Son Thomas and Family so doesnt appear to be deceased.
I also see James Jnr married the lodger in 1871 Census
I did notice in 1841 Census;
Jane Lorimer 20 Servant in the Skine household
Address Kinbet
Civil parish Turriff
County Aberdeenshire
Not much help sorry
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My apologies, yes, that is the 1861 Census
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Have you looked at Mary Lorimer’s death certificate?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6TGN-4W6C?lang=en
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Some siblings of Jean Lorimer that might be useful to follow up
John
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS74-FFM8?lang=en
Elizabeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6TLR-LKXC?lang=en
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There is also a possible death for Jean Lorimer/Anderson
Jane Anderson 72 Old Machar Aberdeen 186/2/71 mmn Callum
(I know her mmn doesn't match).
On the 1851 census she is descibed as weaver's wife.
Bapt for Mary
Mary Robeson d of Thomas Robeson and Jane Dempster Ceres Chance Inn born 22.10.1796 bapt 26.2.1797.
Ciderdrinker
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1871 census Jane Anderson with son James
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59026f59e9379091b1edc096/jane-anderson-1871-aberdeenshire-aberdeen-1818-?locale=en
1881 census. Jane Anderson living with son Thomas.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/image-viewer/census_lds/census_lds-ffd6ec1b-da6a-4d9e-a1b0-768b6243954a?search_token=188992793268c19ba6f225b&row=row_11&sort=&order=&from_page=
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Could you please post the marriage certificate for James?
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Assuming we have found the correct census records for the Anderson / Lorimer family (I think we have), then the father James Anderson was a weaver and not a shoemaker. Thomas’ statement on his marriage about his father being a shoemaker may have been an attempt to inflate his status. Or it seems as if his father died when he was very young, and so he may not have known his occupation.
It would be worth looking at the marriage record of James Anderson to Ann Badenoch in 1872, to see what information he gives about his father.
With all that in mind there is this 1841 census to consider as a maybe.
Census: 1841
County: Aberdeenshire (ABD)
District: Old Machar
Civil Parish: Bon Accord. College Street
Piece: 168; Enumeration District: 23 Page: 26
ANDERSON James M 25 Linen Weaver Aberdeenshire
ANDERSON (Mrs) F 20 Out of County
ANDERSON James M 4m Aberdeenshire
Names, Birth county info, abode in Old Machar, and ages rounded down make it worth considering.
The 4 month old James in this census may have died as an infant, and another James born in 1843 took his place.
There are various burial records in Aberdeen for James Andersons. Looking at the index it is not really possible to know much. You may have to spend some credits to see if any leads comes up.
Unfortunately it doesn’t look as if baptism records for the family survive / exist.
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A Transcript of James Anderson M/C to Ann is on Familysearch.Org.
Ann a widow.
Does not have James snrs occp though.
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Thank you so much everyone for the help! I truly appreciate it, I better get researching :)