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Hi I was wondering if anyone could please help with census for 1901 I'm trying to find Zilpha Annie Allan b 1880 Beckenham Kent, mother Emma Ellum b 1863, father Albert Henry Allen b1861 House painter. In 1911 census she is supposedly married to John Hammersley b 1881 Turnditch Derbyshire for 8 years but I've never found details. The 1911 census has them all under the surname Sindair ( why I have no idea) it seems to come from 1st son Frank b 1906 Manchester. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you.
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Zelpha Annie Allen birth registration December quarter 1879 Kingston on Thames mother's maiden
name Ellum.
Bap. Zelpah Annie 1 February 1882 Beckenham Kent of Albert Henry Allen and his wife SUSANNA
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Need to check the original transcription only on FindMyPast
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Possibly 1901.
Zilla Allen Servant Single Female 22 1879 Cook domestic New Cross, Surrey, England
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GRO Index
Gladys Florence Hammersley reg. 1908 Chorlton mother's maiden name Allen (twin)
Zilpha Hammersley reg. 1908 Chorlton mother's maiden name Allen (twin)
Nancy Mary Hammersley reg 1910 Chorlton mother's maiden name Allen
All three girls deaths reg. 1910 reg. Chorlton
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There is a Francis Herbert Hammersley reg. 1905 with mother's maiden name Doyle. (Frank?)
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Probably NOT parents could be Isaac Hammersley and who married Theresa Doyle 1904 reg. Chorlton
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The 1881 gives her place of birth as Hampton Wick :)
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Thank you everyone Zilpha's place of birth / Mother is different to what
I was thinking/ seen !!
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Baptism at Hulme Lancashire - Holy Trinity
Frank Arthur Hammersley St. Clair bap 14 February 1906 Born 28 Janury 1906
father John - Yardman 31 Renshaw Street.
Mother Annie
So St. Clair became Sinclair in 1911
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1921 there is a Frank Hammersley in either a Boys Home or a Workhouse in Salford Lancashire
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1939 Manchester
Frank Hammersley born 28 January 1906 Lamp Lighter
Florence Hammersley born 11 October 1906
31 BrockleHurst Street.
His DOB matches that of the baptism in Hulme.
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GRO registration Chorlton 1906 March quarter vol 8c page 944
ST CLAIR, Frank Arthur Hummersley (sp) mother's maiden name Allen
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Thank you everyone Zilpha's place of birth / Mother is different to what
I was thinking/ seen !!
You will need to see the original baptism as the online transcript could be wrong with the mother as Susanna. Zilpahs birth reg is Kingston reg district which covers Hampton/Hampton Wick.
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Possibly John's death, age matches 1911 census.
Deaths Mar 1913
Hammersley John 43 Chorlton 8c 984
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Children of John Hammersley St Clair and Zilpha Annie Allen
Find a Grave
Buried Southern Cemetery Chorlton Cum hardy
Gladys F Hammersley died 21 June 19410 Grave 432 Plot M
Zylpha Hammersley died 21 June 1910 same grave.
I could not see Nancy Mary Hammersley however a picture of the gravestone in covered in moss/lichen
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Frank Hammersley died 7 August 1966 his wife Florence Mabel nee Farrell died 5 July 1974
They are in Plot S, grave 2262
Southern Cemetery.
Frank and Florence married 1927 reg. South Manchester.
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Frank Hammersley and Florence Farrell had two daughters
Vera P 1928 married John W Leigh 1948 Manchester?
Dorothy B 1930 married George T Robinson 1953 Manchester?
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Possibly John in 1901 Chorlton
3699 17 26
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Thank you all for info.
I didn't know Frank & Wife had had 2 Daughters 😮 noted.
Cemetery noted plus all other info.
SoftlySoftly please can you tell me what to put in Ancestry search 1901 to see this census possible John Hammersley (please don't send a link as I can never open links) sorry
Thanks again
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1901 census Manchester
RG13 /3699/17 p 26
John Hammersley Head 34 b Derbyshire
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Thank you Softly Softly that's great 😁
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Find A Grave
Nancy Mary Hammersly spelled without the (e) died 18 November 1910 Southern Cemetery Chorlton Cum Hardy
Section/Plot M Grave 1000.
Sorry I missed it the first time.
There is also a John Hammersly without the (e) died 6 March 1913 Plot M Grave 374
birth year not recorded
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John Hammersley who died 1913 was age 43 per GRO Index reg. Chorlton born circa 1870
Already Found - sorry
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They had two other children
Herbert Hammersley 1911 reg. Chorlton mother's maiden name Allen
1921 he is also in either a boys school or the workhouse the same as Frank
both say father dead.
Lesley Hammersley 1912 reg. Chorlton mother's maiden name Allen
1921 Leslie is also in the same place as Frank and Herbert - father dead
Leslie was buried 8 November 1995 cremated remains he is in the same grave as Frank and Florence # 2262
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Just for the record.
From Thornton's 1885 & 1887 Beckenham Directory (the earliest I have which goes house-by-house):
Allen Albert Harry, 49 Eden Road, Elmers End
Also there in 1889 Strong's Bromley; gone in 1891 Strong's.
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Thank you all for valuable info.
This Q may sound silly but how do I confirm Zilpha Annie Allen's birth mother as there is the 2 conflicting names .........!/ Emma 2/ Susan name !!!!!
Thank you for your time and help. ;)
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A copy of the birth certificate will give the mother's name.
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Among yes I had thought of that , do you not have to give any mothers details(I've not ordered a birth cert before only death/marriage) . !,!
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Ref:
Allen, Zelpha Annie 1879 December quarter reg. Kinston Upon Thames Vol 02A page 334
mother's maiden name Ellum
Using the GRO Index i believe the cost is £3 for a digital copy