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Title: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: david seddon on Tuesday 09 September 25 15:29 BST (UK)
Im trying to locate the date and place of marriage between David J Jones and Sarah - was it Glucester or Birmingham?
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: Annie65115 on Tuesday 09 September 25 19:45 BST (UK)
When was this marriage?

There was a marriage in q1 1874 between David John Jones and Sarah Guy, in Birmingham- is this your couple?
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 09 September 25 22:28 BST (UK)
Im trying to locate the date and place of marriage between David J Jones and Sarah - was it Glucester or Birmingham?
When was this marriage?

There was a marriage in q1 1874 between David John Jones and Sarah Guy, in Birmingham- is this your couple?

Is this your Jones family in Birmingham on 1881 census?

Piece   3010 Folio   14 Page number   22
David J. Jones   31, brass dresser
Sarah 32 Crewkerne, Somerset
Alice M. 6
David 3
Margaret 2
All others born Birmingham

JONES, ALICE  MAUD     mmn GUY 
GRO Reference: 1874  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 1

JONES, DAVID   mmn GUY 
GRO Reference: 1877  D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 20

JONES, MARGARET       mmn GUY 
GRO Reference: 1879  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 14

Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: david seddon on Wednesday 10 September 25 17:26 BST (UK)
Thanks to Annie and Ladyhawk - yes - thats them.. thankyou. Im interested to know more about Sarah in particular and why she went from Crewe Kerne to Birmingham - or whether she went first to Gloucester.
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: Annie65115 on Wednesday 10 September 25 19:36 BST (UK)
It appears she moved around the southwest a bit with her family.

In 1851, the family were in Loders, Dorset. The oldest 3 children (including Sarah) were born in Crewkerne, the youngest in Loders.

1861 they were living in Sherborne, Dorset. I can't see Sarah in 1871 on a brief look but her parents and youngest brother were still in Sherborne, as was her older sister Elizabeth (a servant in a different household).

Is there any particular reason to think she may have been in Gloucester?

Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: david seddon on Thursday 11 September 25 07:18 BST (UK)
Hi Annie - my mother always said that an earlier David Jones came from Gloucester and that the family originated in Wales. Bu I think David J Jones who married Sarah Guy was born in Birmingham, as was his father before him - but Im not sure.

Also I would like to know more about Sarah after she went to Birmingham

Are you also interested in these families or someone else?

Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 11 September 25 09:19 BST (UK)
Do you have David's marriage cert to get his father's name?  This looks like David's birth:

JONES, DAVID  JOHN
Mother's maiden surname: BENNETT     
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 16  Page 275

David JONES and Judith BENNETT were married in 1833 in Birmingham.  In 1851 David states he was born in Handsworth, Staffordshire and Judith was born in Upton on Severn in Worcestershire.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: Annie65115 on Thursday 11 September 25 10:37 BST (UK)
With the surname Jones, it's a fair bet that the family came from Wales at some point! But your problem might be in finding out when. There are an awful lot of Jones families!
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: david seddon on Thursday 11 September 25 11:36 BST (UK)
thankyou Dundee - thats interesting. So David John Jones was born in 1851 in Birmingham and his father, another David Jones seems to have been born in Handsworth.

Im told that my grandfather David Jones had a brother, William Jones who had been a trades union activist in Birmingham and Rochdale - any info on him, or more on why Sarah  Guy went to Birmingham and what she was doing there. I think she might have been employed in a hotel... 
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: Annie65115 on Thursday 11 September 25 17:59 BST (UK)
If you get a copy of the marriage certificate, it will say whether Sarah was working at the time of the wedding.
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: david seddon on Friday 12 September 25 10:49 BST (UK)
thanks - Im not sure how I can do that - any suggestions for a beginner
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 13 September 25 12:12 BST (UK)
Jasper/Joanna bapt 2 Sarahs.


Baptisms St Bartholomew, Crewkerne;
Sarah Joanna Elizabeth Lane Guy 26 Mar 1844, Father servant at Mr Penny's
William Guy 10 Apr 1846 Servant to Mr. Penny
James Edward Guy 12 Oct 1847 Servant to the Rev. C. Penny
Sarah Guy 30 Dec 1848 Gentleman Servant


Bapt 03 Mar 1805 St Mary, Handsworth, Staffordshire;
DAVID Jones to THOMAS/ANN
Siblings
William 1791
Elizabeth 1792
Thomas 1796
George 1798
Rebecca 1799 buried 1805 daug of Thomas/Ann
Mary 1802
John 1806
Rebecca 1809 poss buried 1828 age 18 yrs 9mths

1861 Thomas/Elizabeth may be in Birmingham, Unm, born c 1795 and 1801
Thomas down as Boarder, but image looks like Brother to me.

1851  he may be Thos Jones c 1799 Handsworth, Staffordshire

Outside chance this is Thomas with Mother Ann in 1841 in Handsworth;
An Jones 80 Ind
Thomas Jones 40
George Jones 16
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 13 September 25 12:33 BST (UK)
I am in OZ so someone else will be better at explaining how to buy the M/C

But this is the ref for it from FreeBMD;
March 1874
Guy    Sarah  Birmingham 6d 218    
Jones David John Birmingham  6d 218
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: david seddon on Saturday 13 September 25 17:14 BST (UK)
thanks to you all for more info re David Jones and his father and the Guy family. Im still looking for why Sarah Guy went to Birmingham - presumably for a job. and also what she did there before she met David John Jones
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 14 September 25 12:21 BST (UK)
Most likely for work.
M/C will show her occp/address and witnesses + Fathers name/occp.
Title: Re: marriage of david J Jones and Sarah Guy
Post by: david seddon on Wednesday 17 September 25 11:03 BST (UK)
Im now looking for any information on one Minnie Jones, who my mother recalled 'lived in Halifax as part of my Jones family who lived for a time with David Jones and his wife Ada (Dean) and then married Charlie; and their two daughters – Betty and Jean – still live in Halifax. Any suggestions?