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Title: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:06 BST (UK)
I have found a reference to a marriage in Mallow, Co Cork for a Frederick Donnell MacDonald in October 1908 but it  gives the spouse name as 'unknown'. I know he lived in Mallow in 1901 and his younger brother Douglas William was demobbed at Mallow in 1902 but l have been unable to find anything on this even in Mallow or Fredericks area of London. Does anyone know any more of this please?
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:31 BST (UK)
There is this marriage for a Frederick Donald MacDonald father Alexander ( soldier )
Address Spa Terrace Mallow
Spouse Jane Elliott
Date 17/11/1908
Mallow

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 06 September 25 14:32 BST (UK)

Frederick Donald MacDonald to Jane Elliott.
Mallow Parish Church - 17 November 1908.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10076/5665352.pdf

Added: Rosie just beat me to it!

Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:38 BST (UK)

Frederick Donald MacDonald to Jane Elliott.
Mallow Parish Church - 17 November 1908.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10076/5665352.pdf

Added: Rosie just beat me to it!



But your better that me you can add the link thanks for that  ;)

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:39 BST (UK)
This couple are still in Mallow on the 1911 census

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:44 BST (UK)
Wow that was quick and it's definately the right fellow. Its also the first sign I have that he was a soldier.
Thanks ever so much to both of you.

Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:48 BST (UK)
Sorry Rosie. I'd missed your second post  while typing. I tried getting into the census but without any luck. Are you able to give me a link for that.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:52 BST (UK)
Wow that was quick and it's definately the right fellow. Its also the first sign I have that he was a soldier.
Thanks ever so much to both of you.

His father Alexander was the soldier Frederick was a dairy worker

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 06 September 25 14:54 BST (UK)
Sorry Rosie. I'd missed your second post  while typing. I tried getting into the census but without any luck. Are you able to give me a link for that.

Thanks again.

I'm sorry I don't know how to copy and save I'm sure someone will come to my rescue :D

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 06 September 25 14:59 BST (UK)
Sorry Rosie. I'd missed your second post  while typing. I tried getting into the census but without any luck. Are you able to give me a link for that.

Thanks again.

I'm sorry I don't know how to copy and save I'm sure someone will come to my rescue :D

Rosie

1911 census - Frederick an inspector of milk.
House 30 in Spa Walk (Mallow, Cork)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Mallow/Spa_Walk/430806/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001985288/


Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: LH on Sunday 07 September 25 07:51 BST (UK)
Frederick and his wife had a young son who died 1919.  In the death registration, the father Frederick is stated to be a Clerk, living at Spa Terrace, Mallow.  See link:-

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05156/4421762.pdf
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 07 September 25 09:29 BST (UK)

Birth of Frederick William Mac Donald - 19 May 1914 at Spa Terrace, Mallow.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1914/01407/1578738.pdf


Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 07 September 25 09:52 BST (UK)

Two other children born to the MacDonald/Elliott marriage-

Donald Mac Donald - 30 March 1912.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1912/01486/1605106.pdf

Norman Mac Donald - 1 December 1916.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1916/01324/1547140.pdf


Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 07 September 25 12:09 BST (UK)

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Frederick Donald MacDonald to Jane Elliott.
Mallow Parish Church - 17 November 1908.

Jane Elliott (born Northumberland) with her father, mother and siblings in 1901 census.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Mallow_North_Urban/Bearforest_Lower/1130001/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000552041/


Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 07 September 25 12:53 BST (UK)

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Frederick Donald MacDonald to Jane Elliott.
Mallow Parish Church - 17 November 1908.

Jane Elliott (born Northumberland) with her father, mother and siblings in 1901 census.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Mallow_North_Urban/Bearforest_Lower/1130001/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000552041/

Younger sister of Jane, Constance Elliott born 4 July 1889 at Cortigan, Mallow. Father Michael a signal inspector (railways)……mother Mary nee Crumlish.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1889/02458/1913539.pdf

Marriage Oct-Dec 1875   
CRUMLISH    Mary        Berwick    10b   657
ELLIOTT    Michael    Berwick    10b   657
FreeBMD - https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Sunday 07 September 25 13:54 BST (UK)
Wow that was quick and it's definately the right fellow. Its also the first sign I have that he was a soldier.
Thanks ever so much to both of you.

His father Alexander was the soldier Frederick was a dairy worker

Rosie

Thats confusing, his father was Alexander but he never was a soldier, he was a tailer.
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 07 September 25 14:11 BST (UK)
Wow that was quick and it's definately the right fellow. Its also the first sign I have that he was a soldier.
Thanks ever so much to both of you.

His father Alexander was the soldier Frederick was a dairy worker

Rosie

Thats confusing, his father was Alexander but he never was a soldier, he was a tailer.

That's what it says on the certificate 

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 07 September 25 14:21 BST (UK)
I can see on the baptisms of the children of Alexander MacDonald in Greenwich his occupation is as you said Tailor

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Sunday 07 September 25 14:53 BST (UK)
I can see his father Alexander died 1879 Frederick would have been quite young and maybe unsure of his father's occupation

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Sunday 07 September 25 15:43 BST (UK)
I can see his father Alexander died 1879 Frederick would have been quite young and maybe unsure of his father's occupation

Rosie

Quite true and within about 10 months Frederick and his younger brother Normanhad been bundled off to a paupers school which would have been confusing. He had a second brother, Douglas, (my grandfather) who managed to stay at home with his mother until he went in the army and trained at Mallow which is why the family seemed to end up there.
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 08 September 25 07:21 BST (UK)

OP,
Some more information (reply #13 - 1901 census).
Youngest two children.

Florence Elliott born 1 January 1895.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1895/02223/1838424.pdf
Christina Elliott born 27 December 1897.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1898/02090/1796983.pdf

Maybe living in the townland of Carrigoon Beg or More (and mispronounced).
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/fermoy/mallow/mallow-rural/carrigoon-beg/
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/fermoy/mallow/mallow-rural/carrigoon-more/


Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Tuesday 09 September 25 16:50 BST (UK)
Rosie17 & Kiltaglassan - thank you both for all the time and effort you've put into this post. It is appreciated very much.
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 09 September 25 18:42 BST (UK)
Rosie17 & Kiltaglassan - thank you both for all the time and effort you've put into this post. It is appreciated very much.

Your welcome glad to have been able to help and a special thanks to Kiltglassan for adding the links  :D

Rosie
Title: Re: Frederick Donnell Macdonald marriage in Mallow
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 09 September 25 19:30 BST (UK)

Rosie17 & Kiltaglassan - thank you both for all the time and effort you've put into this post. It is appreciated very much.

Your welcome glad to have been able to help and a special thanks to Kiltglassan for adding the links  :D

Rosie

Rosie17 and Dougalmac2,
You're both very welcome  ;D ;D