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Title: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 18:42 BST (UK)
Can anyone please tell me if there are records online to see who owned property in Londonderry/Derry in the 1920’s/30’s….I’ve looked and as far as I can see going back that far you have to go to the land registry office to view paper copies. Any help in this would be great.
Thanks in advance Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 29 August 25 19:45 BST (UK)
I am not sure the Land Registry will necessarily have the information you want. Land Registration has only been compulsory in Northern  Ireland since the 1990s.

The Valuation Revision records on the PRONI website show a William Neely at that address between at least 1910 and 1931. A house and yard. VAL/12/B/33/2E.

Another option might be to check that electoral registers. They are not on-line but PRONI have copies. Personal visit probably required or pay a researcher to look them up.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:03 BST (UK)
Thank you Elwyn for the info.
As far as I was aware my family the Cassidy’s lived at the property from 1915 until my granny passed away in 1962 my mother was born there in 1929, and I know that because of her birth cert.
Thank you again.
Kind Regards Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 29 August 25 20:09 BST (UK)
Have added the Valuation record to my previous post.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:10 BST (UK)
Many thanks
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:15 BST (UK)
I’m really confused now, My mothers brother died there in 1919 also and a few more of her siblings who died between 1918 into the 1920’s.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: cath151 on Friday 29 August 25 20:21 BST (UK)
A newspaper memorium notice for a child confirms that Cassidy and Nash family members were at that address in 1927.
Cathy
Added... several mentions of the Cassidy members in the Derry Journal over the years.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Cathy
Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:27 BST (UK)
Any chance you can please let me know what is says.
Regards Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: MollyC on Friday 29 August 25 20:30 BST (UK)
Are there any local authority rate books available?  They normally show the owner and the occupant, the latter usually paid the rates.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: cath151 on Friday 29 August 25 20:33 BST (UK)
Yes of course,
Cathy
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 29 August 25 20:38 BST (UK)
Are there any local authority rate books available?  They normally show the owner and the occupant, the latter usually paid the rates.

Don't think these are available. I have never seen them.

Valuation Revision records do list Laurence Nash at 2 Argyle Tce.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:44 BST (UK)
Many thanks Cathy and Elwyn
For the look ups replies….I knew Lawrence Nash my great granda lived at No2….
Regards Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 29 August 25 20:45 BST (UK)
Added: apologies for any duplication of cath151’s posts.

Just to confirm what you already know (but please see the item at the end of the list).

11 March 1927: Derry Journal
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IN MEMORIAM.
THIRD ANNIVERSARY.
CASSIDY — In loving nemory of our dear child, Ellen Pamela, who died on 10th March, 1924. Ever remembered by her loving parents, brothers, and sister. John and Lizzie Cassidy, 25 Argyle Terrace, also her grandparents, Laurence and Ellen Nash, 2, Argyle Terrace.


15 July 1938: Derry Journal
A long item. Laurence Cassidy of 25 Argyle Terrace appeared as a witness in a case involving a death in a road accident.


17 June 1949: Derry Journal
Quote
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
...
CASSIDY (First Anniversary) In fond and loving memory of my dear husband and our dear father, John Cassidy, who died 16th June, 1948. Masses offered.

Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on his soul.
Those who think of him to-day,
A little prayer to Jesus say.

Always remembered by his loving wife and family. 25 Argyle Terrace, Derry: 7, Hayworth Street, Todmorden, Lancs.; Reading, Berks.. England: and Dublin.


BUT
5 January 1945: Derry Journal
Quote
Derry Woman Charged
A young woman, Kathleen Doherty, whose address was given as 25, Argyle Terrace, pleaded guilty at Derry Petty Sessions to the larceny of a quantity of Canadian dollars, value £28 13s 4d, the property of a petty officer.
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Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:49 BST (UK)
Sometime around 1947/48 if family stories are accurate my late granda John Cassidy’s sister Annie Cassidy got the deeds to the property ( john died in 1948) they were handed over in security of a family loan…anyway after John died my granny had to rent it from her sister in law the rest of her life…
Regards Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:53 BST (UK)
Thanks Alan, Kathleen was a cousin of my mothers, I knew she had done something wrong. My granny took her in because she had knowhere to go.
Regards Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 29 August 25 20:55 BST (UK)
If you want to know who was living at the address in 1939, you can send an FOI request to PRONI for a search of the 1939 Register, and they’ll look it up for you. (No fee to pay).
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 20:58 BST (UK)
Thank you Elwyn
Kind regards Argyle
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 29 August 25 21:45 BST (UK)
FamilySearch full text search results (124) for Argyle Terrace, Londonderry, you could perhaps plough through them
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text/results?count=20&q.text=%20%2B%22argyle%20terrace%22%20%20%20%2Blondon%2A%20&c.recordPlace1=on&f.recordPlace0=9&c.recordPlace2=on&f.recordPlace1=9%2CIreland

At least Lawrence Nash (number 2) does come up quite a few times.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 29 August 25 21:50 BST (UK)
Sorry, had to remove the Rootschat ShrinkLink - doesn't work properly.
Title: Re: How to find online who owned 25 Argyle Terrace Derry in the 1920’s/30’s
Post by: argyle25cassidy on Friday 29 August 25 22:03 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Jon, will have a look.
Kind regards Argyle