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Title: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: BettyLouLou on Wednesday 27 August 25 11:16 BST (UK)
I'm researching Wilhelm Emil Oskar Rosenblatt who I believe was born at a place called Pitschen, Silesia, Prussia on 23 Apr 1850.

I have two sources, with both being different (see attached):

• A marriage record which looks to say Wilhelm was born Pitschen. There are three Pitschen, with two being in Silesia: https://www.meyersgaz.org/search?search=Pitschen
If it is Pitschen, how do I know which of the two it might be?

• A death certificate which looks to say 'Pitzcaen' which I can't find, so could it be that it was not recorded correctly?

Any thoughts? I've been puzzling over this for a while.

Any assistance would be appreciated thanks.
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: BettyLouLou on Wednesday 27 August 25 11:18 BST (UK)
Here's the death certificate.
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Wednesday 27 August 25 12:31 BST (UK)
Pitschen looks pretty clear to me.  I wouldn't put much weight on a German place-name on a British death cert ! especially soon after WW1 ?
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: davecapps on Thursday 28 August 25 17:31 BST (UK)
Yes, it is Pitschen in Schlesien
Which one??

The only lead i can see, is that on his marriage cert. his father is stated as being a deceased Ziegelmeister = master brickmaker
So Pitschen would be close to a place with a brickmaking industry
Dave
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: fiddlerslass on Thursday 28 August 25 18:33 BST (UK)
There was a brick factory (Ziegelfabrik) in Kreis Striegau according to the business directory of Silesia 1856.
 However, German settlers brought the art of brick making to Silesia in the 13th century  and particularly settled in Lower Silesia, so there was probably a brick industry near Kreuzburg too.

https://www.sbc.org.pl/dlibra/applet/Content/8101?handler=djvu_html5&file=%2FContent%2F8101%2Fimg_362.djvu
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: fiddlerslass on Thursday 28 August 25 18:52 BST (UK)
Page VIII history of Pitschen in Kr.Kreuzburg mentions a Zieglerei

https://bibliotekacyfrowa.pl/Content/133377/PDF/0462505-1938.pdf
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: davecapps on Thursday 28 August 25 19:10 BST (UK)
Good work you are  right it is

Pitschen 3) Ober Schlesien
Pitschen, Kreuzburg, Oppeln, Schlesien, Preussen

found his birth cert
https://photos.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/870bef83d53caec3f24024a16858794aaabcc19a830b1e8da469397b90f72ee6_max

No 19 on the right

Father: Wilhelm Rosenblatt, Ziegelstreicher (smoother)
Mother: Johanna Brink
born: 23 May at 4 am
baptized: 28 April
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: fiddlerslass on Thursday 28 August 25 20:09 BST (UK)
I think it reads " hujus" meaning " of this",  so he would be born April, and not after he was baptized  :D
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: davecapps on Thursday 28 August 25 20:13 BST (UK)
How right you are
My mistake
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: BettyLouLou on Friday 29 August 25 11:35 BST (UK)
Thank you to everyone who has contributed! This is so much more than I expected!
It's good to finally have some clarity about the location being Pitschen, Kreuzburg, Oppeln, Schlesien, Preussen

Fiddlerclass: Thanks for the link to the history of Pitschen. I'll have to try translate it, but that's a great find. Especially interesting mentioning the Ziegeleri too. Like his father Wilhelm, the son Wilhelm Emil Oskar Rosenblatt also became a Ziegelmeister.

davecapps: I've never been able to find the birth record, so this is a bonus! Thank you! I'm now learning to navigate the https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/strona_glowna website in the hope I might discover other family members too. I will try to find a death records, as I believe both his parents were deceased before he married in 1873. There was a brother born abt. 1854. I don't know if he has any other siblings.
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: davecapps on Monday 01 September 25 15:47 BST (UK)
This could be the brother
https://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1002882024
Title: Re: Am I reading this place name correctly? PITSCHEN, Silesia, Prussia
Post by: BettyLouLou on Monday 08 September 25 10:46 BST (UK)
Not sure? I'm going through the Pitschen records now, so I'll look out for a Adolph Rudolph Rosenblatt.