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Title: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Sunday 24 August 25 17:41 BST (UK)
Sorry to be back again so soon with another query but this one is baffling me. ???

I’m researching Jane Ann Sheriff born abt 1871. This is the path I have for her:

1881 census she is with her grandparents in Bedlington; William Sheriff and Dorothy. This says Jane Ann was born in Willington.

1891 census she’s at Barrington Terrace with her grandmother as a domestic servant.

Late 1891, Jane Ann (of Barrington) has an illegitimate son named John Henry Sheriff with a man named John Christie.

1892, Jane Ann Sheriff marries John William Davidson. They have four children; Ann Elizabeth (1892), William (1894), Jane Isabella (1895) and Florence May (1897).

By 1901 John William Davidson is living in Longframlington as a widower with his daughter Florence.

However, I believe Jane Ann is living in Cowpen with a man named William Charlton. Their two children are John Henry Charlton (b. 1891, Barrington) which I assume is her illegitimate son, and a daughter Margaret (b. 1900). There is a birth registered Charlton MN Sheriff in Tynemouth. After that there’s no sign of them.
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 24 August 25 19:15 BST (UK)
There's a possible for Margaret [as Margret] in Cowpen in 1911, as a visitor with the Robson family
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 25 August 25 15:52 BST (UK)
have you got the family in 1871. There is a William Sherriff with wife Dorothy living in Willington, with children
Ann E, 19, b Shilbottle
Esther, 14, b Newcastle
Dorothy, 9 b Long Benton   
John W 4 b Wallsend   
and grandchild, Dorothy A   10 days, b Killington ?

Is Dorothy (granchild) an error and she should be Jane, or did they later change her name ?
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 25 August 25 15:54 BST (UK)
On GRO site
i   SHERRIFF, JANE  ANN     - 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 140
 A dash for mother's maiden name would usually indicate illegitimate. My guess she is the child og=f the 19 year old daughter
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 25 August 25 16:03 BST (UK)
There's a Jane Ann Charlton born 1871 who dies in 1904 Tynemouth district Northumberland age 33 but no knowing if that was her
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 25 August 25 16:05 BST (UK)
There's a possible for Margaret [as Margret] in Cowpen in 1911, as a visitor with the Robson family

May be a red herring but there is a marriage in 1922  in Morpeth district between Annie E Davidson and John A Robson.
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: softly softly on Monday 25 August 25 16:24 BST (UK)
On GRO site
i   SHERRIFF, JANE  ANN     - 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 140
 A dash for mother's maiden name would usually indicate illegitimate. My guess she is the child og=f the 19 year old daughter

On GRO site
i   SHERRIFF, JANE  ANN     - 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 140
 A dash for mother's maiden name would usually indicate illegitimate. My guess she is the child og=f the 19 year old daughter

And you would be correct with the mother of Jane, born 24.3.1871

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Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 26 August 25 09:47 BST (UK)
Bapt 24 Mar 1871 St Mary the Virgin, Willington
DOROTHY Sherriff, Daug of ELIZABETH
Abode Rosehill
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 26 August 25 10:21 BST (UK)
Could Jane A be enumerated twice 1891?

William Tait 39 Head Mar Coal Miner
Ann Tait 39 Wife
Harry D Tait 15   Son
Francis Tait 13   Daughter
William Tait 10   Son
Isabella Tait 8 Daughter
Jan G Tait 20 Daughter born Barrington (image is Jane A)********
Sherril Tait   1 Day Son***

***Image is feint but looks to me that that is John Henry Sherriff

1881 Williams Wife is Jane, death reg 1885

SHERRIFF, JOHN  HENRY     - 
GRO Reference: 1891  J Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 410

1901 Dorothy Sharrift 73 Mother-in-law is with the Taits (Anc has them as TAIB)

1911 William/Ann E Tait are married 20 years, no children born to Marriage


Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 26 August 25 10:40 BST (UK)
There's a Jane Ann Charlton born 1871 who dies in 1904 Tynemouth district Northumberland age 33 but no knowing if that was her

Probate for Jane Ann CHARLTON who dies 4 August 1904 of 4 Jacks Row, Backworth and died at the Royal Infirmary, Newcastle upon Tyne, says her husband's name was Michael CHARLTON, miner.
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: LizzieL on Tuesday 26 August 25 11:38 BST (UK)
There's a marriage Tynemouth district 1872 for an Ann Elizabeth Sherriff, one of the possible grooms is Enoch Thompson. Then a marriage for Ann Elizabeth Thompson Morpeth district 1890, one possible groom William Tait. So looks like Jane Ann's mother
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 26 August 25 11:49 BST (UK)
There's a marriage Tynemouth district 1872 for an Ann Elizabeth Sherriff, one of the possible grooms is Enoch Thompson. Then a marriage for Ann Elizabeth Thompson Morpeth district 1890, one possible groom William Tait. So looks like Jane Ann's mother

1891
William Tait   39   Head
Ann Tait 39   Wife
Harry D Tait 15   Son
Francis Tait 13   Daughter
William Tait 10   Son
Isabella Tait 8   Daughter
Jan G Tait 20   Daughter  Image shows Jane A
Sherril Tait 1 Day   Son  Image reads as Sheffiff Tait

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sorry already posted.
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 08 September 25 16:59 BST (UK)
Morpeth Herald, 13th October 1906
In loving memory of our dear mother ,Dorothy Sherriff,
who died at Barrington Colliery ,on October 12th 1905,aged 79 years
Ever remembered by her daughters and son in Law, Mr & Mrs W Tait
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 08 September 25 17:48 BST (UK)
Free Reg
St Paul Choppington
born 22nd January 1921
baptised 17th Feb 1921
John Henry Sherriff
father John Henry mother Eleanor,
abode Carrs Square,
fathers occupation surface man,
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Free BMD, John H Sheriff marriage to spouse Ireland D 1919 Morpeth
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Free BMD, Births
Sherriff John H mother Ireland ,Morpeth March 1921
Sherriff Esther W J ,mother Ireland ,Morpeth ,March 1923,
Sherriff Robert W, mother Ireland, Morpeth ,September 1926,
1921 living Back St Scotland Gate Bedlington,
possible death for Eleanor Sherriff Morpeth April 1927
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 08 September 25 18:01 BST (UK)
Newcastle Evening Chronicle
dated 6th August 1904
Charlton, 4 Jacks Row Backworth on the 4th inst,
aged 61 years
Jane Ann ,dearly beloved wife of Michael Charlton
to be interned Earsdon on Sunday at 4 o'clock,
Friends please accept this the only intimation

far to old for the lady you are looking for
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Radcliff on Monday 08 September 25 18:37 BST (UK)
have you got the family in 1871. There is a William Sherriff with wife Dorothy living in Willington, with children
Ann E, 19, b Shilbottle
Esther, 14, b Newcastle
Dorothy, 9 b Long Benton   
John W 4 b Wallsend   
and grandchild, Dorothy A   10 days, b Killington ?

Is Dorothy (granchild) an error and she should be Jane, or did they later change her name ?
freer Dorothy Sherriff baptised 24th March 1871, St Mary the Virgin Willington ,mother Elizabeth Sherriff, abode Rosehill
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Monday 08 September 25 19:47 BST (UK)
Wow I hadn’t seen all these responses, my emails haven’t been working. Will look through them now
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Monday 08 September 25 19:56 BST (UK)
I thought I ruled out the possibility of the Tait family, although evidently there’s a connection now w/ Dorothy living with them in 1901.

William Tait & Jane Ann Mackenzie
in 1874, Morpeth, 10b, 625.

TAIT, HENRY       MCKENZIE 
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 354

TAIT, FRANCES  JANE     MCKENZIE 
GRO Reference: 1878  M Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 347

TAIT, WILLIAM       MCKENZIE 
GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 334

TAIT, ISABEL       MCKENZIE 
GRO Reference: 1882  S Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 345

TAIT, MARY       MCKENZIE 
GRO Reference: 1884  D Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 347

So Jane Ann Mackenzie died at some point, and he remarried to Ann Elizabeth (Thompson) in 1890  ???
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Monday 08 September 25 20:06 BST (UK)
Should add that John Henry Sheriff may have been with his father in 1911

Netherton Colliery
John James Lewis Christie, head, 44 b Cambois
Elizabeth Christie, wife, 35, b Choppington
Robert Edwin Christie, son, 13
Charles Christie, son, 11
Peter Christie, son, 8
Margaret Christie, dau, 7
David Christie, son, 6
James Charlton Christie, son, 4
John Sherriff, 19, boarder, b Barrington

Someone has Jane Ann [Sherriff] as  marrying under Jane Ann Tait in 1900 to a John Henry Rutter. 1911 census living at Bedlington with two daughters Mary (1906) and Esther (1908). Clashes with the Charltons but intriguing.

Quarry Row 1901
John Rutter, 38, b Widopen
Jane Ann Rutter, 29, b Gosforth

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Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 09 September 25 01:18 BST (UK)


So Jane Ann Mackenzie died at some point, and he remarried to Ann Elizabeth (Thompson) in 1890  ???

Possibly this death:
Jane Ann TAIT aged 32 Morpeth (10b/243) Mar qtr 1885
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 09 September 25 07:31 BST (UK)
Margaret Charlton mother Sherriff birth registered Tynemouth J 1900, Have you got a scan of this birth, you have her in 1901 with father as William Charlton, mother J Ann and half brother John Henry
the 1901 census doesn't give a precise street address
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Tuesday 09 September 25 09:16 BST (UK)
Margaret Charlton born 6 May 1900 at 11 Beecher Street Cowpen. Dau of William Charlton (coal miner) and Jane Ann formerly Sheriff.

I believe I have her marriage;
Margaret Charlton & Thomas Liddle Mar Qtr 1922 Morpeth

1939 Reg Ashington
Thomas Liddle
Margaret Ryder (Liddle) 06.05.1900

Margaret Liddle & George Ryder Dec Qtr 1953 Northumberland Central

Margaret Ryder 1974 Northumberland C b. 6 May 1900
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 09 September 25 14:15 BST (UK)
14 Jun 1890 Marriage of William TAIT to Elizabeth Ann THOMPSON has her as age 26, abode Chatton and her Father WILLIAM a Gardener.
Does not say widowed etc.
(FreeREG)
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Tuesday 09 September 25 16:23 BST (UK)
14 Jun 1890 Marriage of William TAIT to Elizabeth Ann THOMPSON has her as age 26, abode Chatton and her Father WILLIAM a Gardener.
Does not say widowed etc.
(FreeREG)

Two different marriages I think just coincidentally very similar to one another in details

Ann Elizabeth Thompson & William Tait Jun Qtr 1890 10b 612 in Morpeth

Elizabeth Ann Thompson & William Tait Jun Qtr 1890 10b 703 in Glendale

I presume the FreeREG will be for the Glendale marriage given it’s in Chatton
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Tuesday 09 September 25 16:36 BST (UK)
Ann Elizabeth is a servant in 1881

Bedlington
Robert Fox, 32
Catherine Fox, 35
Mary E Fox, 4days
Ann Elizabeth Sheriff, 29, b Warkworth, nurse

And John Henry was born exactly on census day! That might be why Jane Ann was enumerated twice.
John Henry Sherriff b. 5 April 1891 Barrington, son of Jane Ann, a domestic servant.
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: jonwarrn on Tuesday 09 September 25 19:18 BST (UK)
There's a Jane Ann Charlton born 1871 who dies in 1904 Tynemouth district Northumberland age 33 but no knowing if that was her

June 1904 Tynemouth 10b 182
Charlton, Jane Ann   
Age 33

*I've had to give up trying to get quite all of this from free resources, have most of it
Newcastle Evening Chronicle, 5 May 1904
CHARLTON —11, Beechard Street, Cowpen New Town, Blyth, aged 33 years, Jane Ann, beloved wife of William Charlton. Interment on Sunday, Cowpen Cemetery; lift at 3.... Friends please accept this the only intimation.   

Also an announcement in the Newcastle Chronicle, 7th May.
Possibly died on the 4th inst?

*Turns out a little part of it is missing on the scan, so I have been a bit cheeky there, infilling one or two bits!
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: jonwarrn on Tuesday 09 September 25 19:31 BST (UK)
As they appear in 1901 on FS
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSM1-LG2
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Tuesday 09 September 25 21:07 BST (UK)
There's a Jane Ann Charlton born 1871 who dies in 1904 Tynemouth district Northumberland age 33 but no knowing if that was her

June 1904 Tynemouth 10b 182
Charlton, Jane Ann   
Age 33

*I've had to give up trying to get quite all of this from free resources, have most of it
Newcastle Evening Chronicle, 5 May 1904
CHARLTON —11, Beechard Street, Cowpen New Town, Blyth, aged 33 years, Jane Ann, beloved wife of William Charlton. Interment on Sunday, Cowpen Cemetery; lift at 3.... Friends please accept this the only intimation.   

Also an announcement in the Newcastle Chronicle, 7th May.
Possibly died on the 4th inst?

*Turns out a little part of it is missing on the scan, so I have been a bit cheeky there, infilling one or two bits!

Ah that is brilliant, thank you!  ;D How sad she died so young, though.

Now that means the Tait/Rutter theory can be dismissed because she died before 1911.
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: Radcliff on Wednesday 10 September 25 21:41 BST (UK)
its the same announcement with her name missing due to paper damage on pay to view sites ,good find ,and I wasn't at all convinced she had married as a Tait
Title: Re: Jane Ann Sheriff
Post by: mulberry-rose on Thursday 11 September 25 14:13 BST (UK)
I didn’t think she’d married under Tait either especially with John Henry being with her as a Charlton in 1901.

I am curious about her mother Ann Elizabeth’s circumstances since she seems to be single by 1881. But her marrying as Thompson to William Tait would imply a previous relationship. I can’t find anything else about Enoch Thompson apart from the marriage registration.