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Good evening all
If anyone has access to the following parish register entry I would be grateful for any extra info it might contain
Name George Adams
Gender Male
Marriage Date 12 Apr 1793
Marriage Place Waltham Holy Cross, St Lawrence and Holy Cross, Essex, England
Spouse Ann Reed
Thank you
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Image of parish register is on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SCQ-PCK
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Excellent
Many thanks jonwarm.
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You're welcome.
There's also a transcript on FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5fc103fbf493fd43e9e6da13
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Thanks jonwarm, I had seen the transcript, I was hoping the original entry might have more info, i.e that George and Ann were from Chrishall.
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Hi
No, both of this parish. But they often said that, even if they weren't!
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Yes that true!
I'm having a lot of trouble with my Adams family, keep getting left in the Lurch ;)
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Being "of this parish" simply means that's where they were living when the banns were called, or licence granted.
It doesn't mean that's where they were born.
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I understand it normally means where they were living but I have seen numerous instances where it states one or other were from another parish, presumably because that's where they were living. I was hoping one or the other would be from another parish just to make it easier for me to rule them in or out.
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Being curious I had to have a look;
There are 2 Marriages for a George Adams Waltham Abbey;
12 Apr 1793 to Ann REED
11 Oct 1802 to Phoebe GOODMAN
Both has George as a Bachelor
George/Ann only bapt 3 children there;
Ann 1794
George 1796
Maria 1798
George/Phobe bapt 6 children 1803/1812
George/Phoebe are on 1841 Census and George under George Adam is alone born c 1772 Waltham Abbey.
He was buried 10 Dec 1858 age 84 (GRO has 86)
Wife Phoebe buried 01 Feb 1849 age 74 abode Camps Alley
So are you descended from Ann/George/Maria?
How does the Chrishall George fit into your Tree?
Records are on FreeREG also including his bapt 1770
Trish :)
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There is also a Marriage East Ham 14 Jan 1794 Ann GOUGE/George ADAMS
I did notice a Tree having George 1770 Parents Richard/Mariah dying 1837 Wendon Lofts.
Bapt there 25 May 1800 for WILLIAM son of George/Anne Adams
+ JOHN 29 Sep 1802 and MARY 20 Jan 1805
Still looking back soon.
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Ok St Dunstan, Wendon Lofts;
ADAMS
Marriages;
GEORGE 28 Feb 1818 to Ann WRIGHT 28 Feb 1818 Maria Adams a witness
MARY 15 Feb 1821 to William SHELFORD
Burials;
ANN 23 Apr 1820 age 47
JOHN 30 Jul 1821 age 19
GEORGE 17 Apr 1837 age 68
Now trying to check if George who married Ann Wright 1818 was born 1796 Waltham Abbey
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1861 Census
Heydon, Essex
George Adams 67 born Waltham
Ann Adams 60 born Heydon
George Renolds 20
1851 George may have pob wrong as Epping, Middlesex
Living in Heydon
George Adams 56
Ann Adams 60
Joseph Adams 21 Son
Eliza Adams 8 Daughter
All but George born Heydon
ADAMS, ELIZA mmn WRIGHT
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in ROYSTON & BUNTINGFORD Volume 06 Page 554
1841 George not at home;
Ann Adams 40 Labs wife
James Adams 17
Mary Adams 15
Joseph Adams 11
Harriet Adams 9
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I hope you can follow my logic :D
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Hi Trish
Thanks for taking an interest.
I will post the details I have as soon as I get home
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All good.
I wont be on here until tomorrow as getting late here in Sydney :)
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Hi Trish
Hope you can follow my logic
A potted history and what I need to prove or disprove.
George was the second of 7 children born to Richard and Mariah in Chrishall
Maria 1765
Richard 1767
George 1770
Rebecca 1772
Lydia 1774
Sarah 1776
Mercy 1778
4 of the 5 girls married at about 21
Richard at 20
All in Chrishall
No marriage in Chrishall for George
George had 3 children with Anne in Wendon Lofts
William 1800
John 1802
Mary 1805
Poss George bur in Wendon Lofts 1837 aged 69 ties in with 1769/70 birth
Poss Ann bur in Wendon Lofts 1820 aged 47 ties in with 1773 birth
An Ann Reed was bapt in Chrishall to William and Elizabeth in 1772 which ties in with the burial age .
I would have expected George and Ann to marry in round about 1793 so first child in 1800 seemed odd.
Marriage of George Adams and Ann Reed in 1793 in Waltham Holy Cross
Children
Ann 1794
George 1796
Maria 1798
So, clutching at straws looking at gaps between children and making some naming suppositions
George b 1770 Chrishall marries Ann b 1772 Chrishall in 1793 but for some reason in Waltham Holy Cross
First 3 children born in Waltham
Ann 1794 (Named after Wife)
George 1796 (Named after Self)
Maria 1798 (Named after his mother)
next 3 born in Wendon Lofts
William 1800 (named after Wife's father)
John 1802
Mary 1805
I have been on a complete wild goose with this line twice already, so wouldn't be surprised if I am again.
As always completely happy to be shown where I may have gone wrong
Just rereading your posts
GEORGE 28 Feb 1818 to Ann WRIGHT 28 Feb 1818 Maria Adams a witness married in Wendon Lofts surely must be the George and Maria b in Waltham ?
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While you wait for Trish...
BTs for Wendon Lofts
George Adams, buried 17 April 1837
Age 68 years
Abode Walden Workhouse
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLD-38G
Ann Adams, buried 23 April 1820
Age 47 years
Abode Wendon Lofts
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLD-3FM
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Thanks jonwarm
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Yes I totally agree with all you have as I came to the same conclusion.
Married 1793 Waltham (likely working in area when met?)
3 children bapt there
Off to Wendon
Bapt more children there.
Yes agree George who married Ann Wright is the one bapt Waltham 1796.
So I think you have this all correct :)
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Hi Trish
Thanks again for your interest and your help. Its nice to have a second opinion. I think I might be getting somewhere with my Adams family at last.
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Thanks also to jonwarm, I didnt realise that FamilySearch had any Essex films, so must check more carefully next time.
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Your welcome.
Good luck and if you need any more help just add query to this :)
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:)