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Title: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 19 August 25 15:55 BST (UK)
On 7 July 1863 at Histon William Gawthroup married Mary Ann Allen (father recorded as James)

the 1881 census records Mary Ann's birth as 1842 in Somersham.

Can anyone see details of her parents?
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 19 August 25 16:14 BST (UK)
Any occupation listed for James?
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 19 August 25 16:15 BST (UK)
He was a labourer.
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 19 August 25 16:23 BST (UK)
There is a James who is a farmer in 1851.

He has 4 daughters one Mary A and one Eliza. 

One of the witnesses was Eliza so possible.
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 19 August 25 16:29 BST (UK)
Did Mary Ann have a son Moses?  If so this might be useful.

1881

James Allen 67 head
Mary Ann Allen 62 wife
Moses Gawthorp 15 grandson
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 19 August 25 16:36 BST (UK)
Possibly five children, ...... William and Mary Ann didn't co-habit as far as I can see.
 
Eliza Ann      1863
Moses      1866
Louisa      1867
John William   1870      
Frederick      1872
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 19 August 25 17:38 BST (UK)
Have you checked freebmd for a birth for Mary then used GRO online to find her mothers maiden name?

Have you looked for her on the 1851 census?
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 19 August 25 17:42 BST (UK)
If Moses is missing from the Gawthorp family in 1881 I would say you have found the parents of Mary Ann you were looking for.

What do you mean they didn’t co-habit?  Are they not with the children in 1871/1881?
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 19 August 25 17:50 BST (UK)
In 1891, 1901 and 1911 Mary Ann is living in Chesterton and William in Histon.
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 19 August 25 17:54 BST (UK)
So are you satisfied her parents now are James & Mary Ann?

Who are all the Gawthorp children with in 1871/1881?
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 19 August 25 17:55 BST (UK)
Using the info in Reply 4 you can  look for her on the 1851 census.  She is easily found using the birthplace given in your opening post

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/places/regindex2-2.pdf shows her birthplace came under St Ives RD & there is a probable birth on freebmd

Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 19 August 25 18:04 BST (UK)
They were living together in 1881, in Histon,
.....but in 1871 Mary Ann was in Chatteris and William in Histon.

Im confident that James & Mary Ann Allen are her parents, thank you.
Title: Re: Mary Ann Allen
Post by: bobtonks on Tuesday 19 August 25 18:12 BST (UK)
and it looks like James married Mary Ann Steadman in 1939, St Ives, Hunts.