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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: colee on Monday 18 August 25 08:54 BST (UK)
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Hello
I'm really keen to find out if the Imre Furst who was in Glasgow on the electoral roll in 1951 came from Hungary and was my grandmother's 2nd cousin, who was born 27 Sept 1899 in Budapest to parents Ignac Furst and Ilona Rothauser.
Thank you so much for any help, Colee
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Apologies, it should say 1951 in the subject. There was a Cyril I Furst in 1961 which I suppose could be the same person but I'd have to prove it.
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Description Naturalisation Certificate: Imre Fürst. From Hungary. Resident in Netherlee, Renfrewshire. Certificate BNA15960 issued 2 November 1950.
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That's interesting softly softly, thank you so much. I will hunt for the certificate on the National Archives, I should have thought of that!
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There is an Imre Furst on the 1939 war register born 1909 with a possible wife Mary A. Also a marriage in 1972,
FURST
IMRE
BRAUN
ALICE
1972
650 / 74
Eastwood and Mearns
FURST
IMRE
STERN
ALICE
1972
650 / 74
Eastwood and Mearns
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Amazing info thank you softly softly :)
If he was born in 1909 that probably discounts him as my grandmother's cousin, as he would need to have been born in 1899. Which is what I wanted to find out. So I'm very grateful. I was nearly getting very excited there, I thought he might be my man!!
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Still, I suppose that the Imre Furst born in 1909 might be a relative of my grandmother too, if he was from Budapest, Hungary. I am looking for someone who might be the father of a DNA match of mine (this DNA match only just found out he has Hungarian heritage through a DNA test which showed the person he thought was his father in fact wasn't). So it could be anyone related to me, I think on my father's maternal side (worked out from triangulation), who was in Glasgow in 1948. It's a bit of a needle in a haystack situation!
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I don't think I can view the marriage details online, there isn't an image, so I guess I would have to order the certificate. No death records come up.
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Having no Scottish relatives, I don't subscribe to ScotlandsPeople.
But looking at FreeBMD (for England & Wales) for Furst births by decade, 1900-1979, shows:
1900's 11
1910's 5
1920's 3
1930's 2
1940's 19
1950's 7
1960's 10
1970's 14
So, not an unusual surname?
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Interesting thank you KGarrad :)
Yes there do seem to be quite a few Furst records for England and Wales, I wonder though how many of them with Hungarian heritage. I guess there would be far fewer for just Scotland.
I would say that Furst is (or was as most would have changed their names) fairly common in Hungary, there are 500 or so Furst marriages and death records on JewishGen, and double that for births. So it's quite manageable numbers for doing research if you're looking at particular locations :)
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Having no Scottish relatives, I don't subscribe to ScotlandsPeople.
For the avoidance of doubt and possible disappointment or misunderstanding, no-one subscribes to Scotland's People. It is free to register and to search the indexes and some documents but mostly it is pay-per-view with no subscription option available.
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Hi,
As Forfarian has said free to look at the indexes for SP, there are 43 Furst births recorded in Scotland, the first in 1879.
Happy Hunting
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Lovely, thank you David and Forfarian!
I have actually managed to deduce through the helpful Scottish Jewish archives that Imre's parents were Emil and Johanna Berger, and I then found a well-researched Ancestry tree with his family including photos. So it's great to locate Imre, and he was definitely Hungarian. But it wasn't the Imre I was hoping for, although it's possible somehow he is related to the Imre Furst on my tree. Some of his siblings were living in London, so it's conceivable there is family there still and I might try to connect with them to see what I can find out that way.
Thank you all for your help!