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Title: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: oldhippy on Sunday 17 August 25 11:25 BST (UK)
William Hambling B 1846 Dereham Norfolk England  D Dec 1937 South Shields Durham England

I would like to know who he married.

I have info he married twice. Eliza Eliza Ellsworth can’t find a marriage certificate but other ancestry trees have the same entirety.

The other is Sarah Brooks. I have info on a marriage England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 which gives William Hambling

The other problem I’m having is Children. If he married twice which had which mother? There are a few I have 5 William John 1880, Annie M Hambling 1886, Bertha 1888, Rebecca 1890 and Samuel 1893 
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 17 August 25 11:33 BST (UK)
You can find the mothers maiden names from the GRO index https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

William John's mother was an Ellsworth. I haven't checked the others
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 17 August 25 11:58 BST (UK)
Have you looked for him on the various censuses to establish his wife’s name as it will help pin down a death date for first wife & re-marriage

You can then use GRO online to “split” the children between the 2 wives
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 17 August 25 12:00 BST (UK)
In the 1881 census he has children Samuel Ellsworth 14 born Lymington, and Florence S?orey 4 born South Shields.

Florence's surname must be Scorey. MMN Ellsworth per the GRO index.
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 17 August 25 12:03 BST (UK)
Looks like Eliza Ellsworth married William Scorey in Lymington in 1871
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: oldhippy on Sunday 17 August 25 13:59 BST (UK)
Eliza Ellsworth married William Scorey

Yes I found that which makes it more confusing as some of the children have the mother as Eliza. I haven't subscribed to the site that some have found info. Not being funny but I have problems with types of sites and it takes me for ever unlike many on here who find the info so quick, About 10 years ago I had a  mini stroke and things have never been the same.
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 17 August 25 16:37 BST (UK)
Per freebmd - Eliza Hambling aged 35 died 1886 South Shields

Per freebmd William Hambling married Sarah Brooks 1887 South Shields

1891 - Sarah is 42 b Staffordshire - no children shown born between 1887 - 1891
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 17 August 25 16:42 BST (UK)
1901 there is a son Samuel Hambling b 1893

GRO online shows mmn Denley which suggests Sarah was previously married

Freebmd has an 1867 marriage - Sarah Agnes Denley / George John Brooks
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: oldhippy on Sunday 17 August 25 16:52 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help.
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 17 August 25 17:03 BST (UK)
A falling out with Sarah in 1900? https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/3cda38d8-6f27-4a95-8a4c-b551f54d5ac4
Title: Re: William Hambling 1846 Dereham Norfolk
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 17 August 25 18:55 BST (UK)
She must have seen the error of her ways as they are together in 1901 & 1911 😂😂