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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: bikermickau on Saturday 09 August 25 21:37 BST (UK)
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Family is recorded on Familysearch.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/MDRF-L6P
Father is Richard Henson born abt. 1841 Colsterworth, Lincolnshire, England
Mother is Mary Baird born abt. 1847 Hulme, Lancashire, England
They married 5 January 1865 Manchester Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Daughter Mary Helen aka May Ellen born 1866 Hulme, Lancashire, England
Daughter Charlotte Eliza born 1868 Salford, Lancashire, England
1871 Census they are at Salford, Lancashire, England
1880 census they are at Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
My interest in this family is that they have been merged with relatives of mine on several Ancestry trees.
Richard Henson and Mary Ann Cox married 28 Nov 1868 Lorain, Ohio, United States.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/KZ1Y-RYY
Mick
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GRO online shows a son William b Sept qtr 1871 Salford died same qtr mmn Baird
The second link above shows Richards birthplace as Northamptonshire??
As family were in England until late 1871 - how could Richard have married in the US in 1868??
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Thanks CaroleW,
The 2nd link is a different family that they have been merged with on several Ancestry trees.
This family immigrated 1852 via New York to Ohio.
Mick
GRO online shows a son William b Sept qtr 1871 Salford died same qtr mmn Baird
The second link above shows Richards birthplace as Northamptonshire??
As family were in England until late 1871 - how could Richard have married in the US in 1868??
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https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/60525/records/34219471
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This is the Mary Ann on the findagrave inscription
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/60525/records/34219577
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CaroleW
The Henson's in Lorain County, Ohio, United States aren't the same Henson's that were in Pennsylvania 1880 census.
Mick
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Exactly. As you say - somebody's tree has incorrect info. Have you contacted the tree owner?
Here's the link to a "wrong 'un"
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/78765052/person/34432253383/facts?_phsrc=mru15&_phstart=successSource
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Thanks CaroleW,
I have contacted this Ancestry tree owner.
There are another 4 to 7 Ancestry trees (3 are private) that have the same "incorrect info"
Exactly. As you say - somebody's tree has incorrect info. Have you contacted the tree owner?
Here's the link to a "wrong 'un"
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/78765052/person/34432253383/facts?_phsrc=mru15&_phstart=successSource
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Problem 1 - people don't research properly
Problem 2 - they put their incorrect tree online
Problem 3 - others just copy it without checking & before you know it you have multiple trees all with wrong info. Which is the case with the Henson tree.
A few weeks ago I saw a tree that showed 2 children in the same family baptised several years before they were born. Another tree had a death for an adult male a year before his marriage. Bet his bride got a shock at the altar😂
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It is what happened to the Lancashire Henson's after the Pennsylvania 1880 census that I'm interested in.
I've been researching my Henson's in Lorain County, Ohio for the past couple of weeks.
About 21 of them emigrated in 1852 on the same ship.
My connection to these Henson's in Lorain County, Ohio is John Haddon and Avis Cooke of Naseby, Northamptonshire, England.
Mick
Problem 1 - people don't research properly
Problem 2 - they put their incorrect tree online
Problem 3 - others just copy it without checking & before you know it you have multiple trees all with wrong info. Which is the case with the Henson tree.
A few weeks ago I saw a tree that showed 2 children in the same family baptised several years before they were born. Another tree had a death for an adult male a year before his marriage. Bet his bride got a shock at the altar😂
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1881 Philadelphia city directory
Henson, Richard, patternmaker, home 1821 Wharton
1882 Philadelphia city directory
Henson, Richard, patternmaker, home 808 Cherry
I don't see any likely match for the family in 1883, so I wonder if this is Richard.
Burial in September 1882 - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/207255619/richard-henson
This almshouse record has the name transcribed as Henser, but it looks more like Hensen to me. It has this Richard as born in England and died at age 42. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VKD9-CXP?lang=en
Another death record is transcribed as Heuser, but has the same age/place of birth as the almshouse record and also mentions that he's married & a pattern maker. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK3G-X3F?lang=en
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Thanks shellyesq,
I did check FindaGrave a couple of days ago and saw this Richard died 1882 and a Mary Henson died 1888 in Mount Moriah Cemetery.
Couldn't confirm that they are a couple and that they are buried in the same grave location
Anything more of Mary Henson died 1888.
I tried searching for them and the daughters 1900 Census, might try 1910+ for the daughters.
What is the source for the Philadelphia city directory?
Mick
1881 Philadelphia city directory
Henson, Richard, patternmaker, home 1821 Wharton
1882 Philadelphia city directory
Henson, Richard, patternmaker, home 808 Cherry
I don't see any likely match for the family in 1883, so I wonder if this is Richard.
Burial in September 1882 - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/207255619/richard-henson
This almshouse record has the name transcribed as Henser, but it looks more like Hensen to me. It has this Richard as born in England and died at age 42. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VKD9-CXP?lang=en
Another death record is transcribed as Heuser, but has the same age/place of birth as the almshouse record and also mentions that he's married & a pattern maker. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK3G-X3F?lang=en
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The city directories are available on various sites, subscription or free. There are some links here - https://theancestorhunt.com/blog/free-online-pennsylvania-city-directories/
This appears to be the death for the Mary who died in 1888 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK9Z-H4Z?lang=en She's the right age for your Mary, but it says she was married and was born in Pennsylvania.
The burial of Richard in 1882 and the Mary who died in 1888 were both at Section 210, lot 352, 3rd fr. South line, so looks like they were together.
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There is a mention of Richard's death in the newspaper, but no details other than listing his age as 41. https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-philadelphia-times-obituary-for-rich/178658059/
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Thanks shellyesq,
I think it is likely them.
Mick