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Title: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: AusFamily on Friday 08 August 25 09:31 BST (UK)
Help please

I'm trying to decipher the place of burial written on this San Francisco death certificate from 1931, the typing and the handwriting appear to be 2 different things.
Maybe someone with some local knowledge may know better?

thank you
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: shanreagh on Friday 08 August 25 09:56 BST (UK)
Any chance that you can just copy the death certificate at the usual size please ie don't try to enlarge it. 

It is badly pixelated but I can read the undertaker's address as being 1724 Sacramento Bvld

Cannot read the person's name, has this been cut off? Could you pl supply this as it will make being able to help you easier.

Is it Carl Kalms?
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: gc1 on Friday 08 August 25 11:13 BST (UK)
I think this maybe the transcript  ???

Name   Carl R Kalms
Sex   Male
Age   41 years
Birth Year (Estimated)   1890
Event Type   Death
Event Date   1931 (added 19 December 1931)
Event Place   California, United States
Certificate Number   68558

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKS9-77KT?lang=en

No mention of burial location
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: AusFamily on Friday 08 August 25 19:25 BST (UK)
I think this maybe the transcript  ???

Name   Carl R Kalms
Sex   Male
Age   41 years
Birth Year (Estimated)   1890
Event Type   Death
Event Date   1931 (added 19 December 1931)
Event Place   California, United States
Certificate Number   68558

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKS9-77KT?lang=en

No mention of burial location

yes that is the person. We are trying to find out his place of burial from the certificate!
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: AusFamily on Friday 08 August 25 19:31 BST (UK)
Any chance that you can just copy the death certificate at the usual size please ie don't try to enlarge it. 

It is badly pixelated but I can read the undertaker's address as being 1724 Sacramento Bvld

Cannot read the person's name, has this been cut off? Could you pl supply this as it will make being able to help you easier.

Is it Carl Kalms?


Yes, it is Carl Kalms. I attach the entire certificate as requested. We are trying to find out the place of burial please
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: shanreagh on Monday 11 August 25 06:39 BST (UK)
Do you have the actual certificate with you?

There are type written word/s above the handwritten-in place of burial.

What are they and what is the heading of the box that the handwriting occurs in.

Thanks
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 11 August 25 06:49 BST (UK)
I believe it says:

Place of Burial or <undecipherable>
                        BURIAL
S? S?
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 11 August 25 09:01 BST (UK)
Cannot identify burial place "S.. S..."(?) but 1724 Sacramento Street was the Cathedral Mortuary and the Undertakers/Funeral Directors Joseph Hagan & Sons.
I've started to plough thru' the "Despatch" columns of the San Francisco Examiner for any reference to place of interment that looks like place on the cert - but without success.
The newspaper site only delivers "snippets" and to view requires subscription.

Couldn't spot a "Despatch" for Carl Robert KALMS?
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: gc1 on Monday 11 August 25 12:45 BST (UK)
I believe it says:

Place of Burial or <undecipherable>
                        BURIAL
S? S?

Could it be "Place of Burial or Internment"
Title: Re: Decipher place of burial San Fran death cert 1931
Post by: Isabel H on Tuesday 12 August 25 19:39 BST (UK)
Place of burial or cremation?