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Title: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Lance Matthews on Wednesday 06 August 25 11:24 BST (UK)
I am looking for the parents and siblings of Susan Justin born Clonanny, Near Portarlington in 1855 she married Charles Matthews at Lea Church 01.04.1880. Not sure if it was the old COI church, or the new one. All help would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 06 August 25 11:30 BST (UK)
Start with her marriage
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1880/11036/8036285.pdf

Her father was Richard a farmer.
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 06 August 25 11:33 BST (UK)
Death of Richard with son Thomas as informant
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05636/4585955.pdf

Thomas’ full name may have been George Thomas
https://willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014914/005014914_00136.pdf

1901 Richard, son Thomas and family.
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Kilmullen/Clonanny/1648376/
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Lance Matthews on Wednesday 06 August 25 11:48 BST (UK)
Thank you, most helpful.
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 06 August 25 11:52 BST (UK)

Maybe the death of Susan and Thomas's mother Sarah.
At Clonanny in 1876. The informant Thomas Justin.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1876/020566/7216901.pdf


Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Lance Matthews on Wednesday 06 August 25 12:08 BST (UK)
Many thanks
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: PatB1971 on Wednesday 06 August 25 12:31 BST (UK)
Hi Lance,
             I actually live in Lea myself not far from Clonanny.
I was looking at the Griffiths Valuations and I can see a Richard Jestin in Clonanny.I could take a spin up to the graveyard if youd like to see if I can find some of your family.

https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&PlaceID=1077984&county=Laois&barony=Portnahinch&parish=Lea&townland=%3Cb%3EClonanny%3C/b%3E
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: PatB1971 on Wednesday 06 August 25 12:38 BST (UK)
This website has pictures from the graveyard in Lea with Justins and Matthews

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2733097/memorial-search?cemeteryName=Lea+Church+of+Ireland&page=5#sr-282257463
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 06 August 25 15:09 BST (UK)
Thomas married Jane Hendly
One of the witnesses is H Justin another sibling possibly
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1880/11036/8036175.pdf

Jane died 1888
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06175/4765441.pdf
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Lance Matthews on Wednesday 06 August 25 18:47 BST (UK)
Thank you. Will spend time tomorrow going through all the information given. I think the Justins farmed in Clonanny for generations,
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 06 August 25 19:30 BST (UK)

Richard JESTIN in the Griffith's Valuation of 1851 for Queen's County (Laois).
Clonanny townland in Lea civil parish.

Use Griffith's Places
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch



Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 06 August 25 23:16 BST (UK)
I was trying to follow up on the H Justin witness.
Not at all sure about this man but worth noting at least

Henry Edward Justin a widower married Emma Sexton in 1892 father Richard
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10626/5871376.pdf
Hist first marriage was 1878 to Mary Ann Watson
BUT in 1901 he is born Kildare
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Clonbulloge/Clonbulloge/1464951/

There is a marriage license in Kildare in 1841 for a Richard Justin and Sarah Thompson

https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/dm/IRE_DIOC_007246535_00092.pdf


Speculation, Sarah Thompson is the Sarah Justin who died 1876 and she gave birth to some of her children in her parents home in Kildare.


Added Henry died 1908 and there is a report of his funeral in the Leinster Leader, it’s a bit limited information wise but gives his brothers as Richard, Samuel and Thomas.
No mention of a woman, not even his wife or daughter.
His sons HJ, William, HS and Herbert.
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Lance Matthews on Thursday 07 August 25 09:49 BST (UK)
Great information and appreciate all the help you have all given to this project.
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Lance Matthews on Thursday 07 August 25 11:54 BST (UK)
It looks like Richard Justin b 1814 d 1904 Mountmellick is the father of Susan Justin. In the 1901 census she is shown as living at house 4 in Glebe East (Geashill, King's County) with her husband Charles Matthews and children Jane, William, Susan, Sarah and John. Samuel Justin, the brother of Susan Justin, is shown as visitor on the census records born 1851
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 07 August 25 12:16 BST (UK)

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Samuel Justin, the brother of Susan Justin, is shown as visitor on the census records born 1851

Samuel Justin a farmer died 26 April 1924 at Clonanny, Portarlington. His niece Susan Justin was the informant.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1924/05033/4376972.pdf


Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Lance Matthews on Thursday 07 August 25 12:45 BST (UK)
looking at the 1901 census for Clonanny there ia a Susan Justin, born 1844 and a Thomas Justin born 1848 shown as a widower and his father is Richard Justin born 1814
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 August 25 14:57 BST (UK)
I think you mean 1884 for Susan, that census is in reply #2
As you mentioned Samuel in 1901 is with the Matthews
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Geashill/Glebe_East/1470318/
and in 1911 he's with Thomas
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Kilmullen/Clonanny/791130/
Title: Re: Susan Justin born Clonanny 1855
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 August 25 16:09 BST (UK)
I think this could be the other brother Richard in Dublin
Marriage 1867 father Richard
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11497/8227020.pdf
1901 born Queens
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Ontario_Terrace/1293620/
1911
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Ontario_Terrace/51097/
Death 1926
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1926/04986/4359830.pdf

That would (hopefully) account for all the brother's at Henry funeral, just that sticker of Henry saying he was born Kildare.