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Title: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 04 August 25 08:05 BST (UK)
Good morning

I would be most grateful for the look-up  and/or any relevant information regarding the imprisoned of William McKay age 37 in Salford 1867, born Edinburgh c 1830.

Thank you.

Kind regards
Amanda
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 04 August 25 09:35 BST (UK)
He and a Patrick Sheridan were serving one month's hard labour for stealing a gross of ? strings at Newton. I can't make out the missing word - beef? beet?   

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4511646%2F00138.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F62170068%2F1
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 04 August 25 10:04 BST (UK)
He and a Patrick Sheridan were serving one month's hard labour for stealing a gross of ? strings at Newton. I can't make out the missing word - beef? beet?   

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FMAN%2F4511646%2F00138.JOIN&parentid=GBPRS%2FA%2F62170068%2F1

Hi

Well I am really hedging my bets that this is the ancestor I have been looking for. My William Mackay was a whip string maker who lived Newton Heath around 1861. I am always reluctant to claim somebody but I think it's adding up it may be him. I believe this William was born in Edinburgh which is a piece of information that has eluded me up until now.🤞

Thank you so much  ;D

Kindest regards
Amanda.

Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: emeltom on Monday 04 August 25 10:27 BST (UK)
The entry does state that he was a Whipmaker from Edinburgh and that his last known address was Sarah Street, Ardwick.
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 04 August 25 10:54 BST (UK)
I see the theft of " ... Gut strings ..."
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 04 August 25 11:01 BST (UK)
Ashton Reporter, 22 Jun 1867

"HEAVY PENALTIES FOR A NUISANCE AT NEWTON HEATH - Mr James Garner, gut manufacturer, Newton Heath ..."
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 04 August 25 11:13 BST (UK)
The entry does state that he was a Whipmaker from Edinburgh and that his last known address was Sarah Street, Ardwick.

 ;D

I don't think I've ever been so happy to find an ancestor who did time. Lol. This is great additional information. It confirms William is my gt grandfather. This has opened up a whole new avenue of research for me.

Thank you so much.

Kindest regards

Amanda
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 04 August 25 11:17 BST (UK)
Ashton Reporter, 22 Jun 1867

"HEAVY PENALTIES FOR A NUISANCE AT NEWTON HEATH - Mr James Garner, gut manufacturer, Newton Heath ..."

Hi

Thank you. This is quite fascinating and a bit ickky. I will investigate this but I wonder if it is connected to whip string making though why he would steel them is beyond me.

Kindest regards

Amanda
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: hanes teulu on Monday 04 August 25 11:40 BST (UK)
Agree the "ickky"!

In another appearance in Court Garner, as a "gut rope" manufacturer, was told he had "... no right to set up works to poison the neighbourhood".
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 04 August 25 11:42 BST (UK)
Agree the "ickky"!

In another appearance in Court Garner, as a "gut rope" manufacturer, was told he had "... no right to set up works to poison the neighbourhood".

The smell have been horrific  :-[
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 04 August 25 22:10 BST (UK)
The entry does state that he was a Whipmaker from Edinburgh and that his last known address was Sarah Street, Ardwick.

Hi

Does the entry say which prison William was sent to, please?

Thanks

Amanda
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 04 August 25 23:36 BST (UK)
Salford New Bailey

https://manchesterhistory.net/manchester/gone/newbailey.html
Title: Re: Prison Register Look-Up Request
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Tuesday 05 August 25 01:31 BST (UK)
Salford New Bailey

https://manchesterhistory.net/manchester/gone/newbailey.html

Thank you  ;D