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Title: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: ribbo39 on Sunday 03 August 25 11:05 BST (UK)
Hi all,
In my tree I have  a John Rowland bapt. 20-11-1791 in Buckland, Berks (s/o Edward & Mary).

I have not been able to find a marriage for him but believe he married about  1825is possibly a Mary.

In the 1851 & 1861 census he is a widr and  lists Buckland as his place of birth and has a g/son Daniel living with him in 1861

I wouldld appreciate some help in finding his marriage.

(His g/son was aged 13 in the 1861 census and born in Stanford, Berks but having looked at the transcripts for Stanford-in-the-Vale failed to find him and wonder if his name is recorded as "Rowland" for convenience sake"

Alan
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 03 August 25 11:47 BST (UK)
1841 census in Stanford:

John Rowland 49 ag lab
Mary 48
William 22
George 7
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 03 August 25 12:08 BST (UK)
Baptism at Stanford in the Vale for William Rowland with parents John & Mary 29 Jun 1817 - fathers occ Labourer

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There is a baptism at Buckland 27 Nov 1814 for an Elizabeth Rowland with parents John & Mary
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: ribbo39 on Sunday 03 August 25 12:33 BST (UK)
Thank you both.

Looking at the Stanford baptisms I have found 3 children bapt. with parents John & Mary (1817, 1820 & 1822). I already had Elizabeth's bapt. in Buckland.

Still no marriage if correct parents.

Alan
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: amondg on Sunday 03 August 25 18:16 BST (UK)
Daniel "Rowland" could be Daniel Cox son of his daughter Anne who married William Cox.

He is with his father a widower in 1851 age 6 - born circa 1844.

Anne must have died between 1844 and 1851 - not found it yet.


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Daniel was baptised 23 November 1844 Stanford in the Vale son of William and Ann Cox.

Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: amondg on Sunday 03 August 25 18:18 BST (UK)
Still no parents but more children.
All at Stanford in the Vale

Elizabeth 1814
William 1817
Anne 1820   marries William Cox
Sarah 1822   marries James Hudson 1840
Thomas 1824
John 1826
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: amondg on Sunday 03 August 25 18:38 BST (UK)
Unknown if George age 7 in 1841 is their son or grandson - he dies 1849 age 16 buried 13 August.
daughter Elizabeth would have been old enough to have children 1833

A copy of the death certificate may give the parents or who was present at death.
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Thomas bap 1824 dies 1842 buried 26 July  age 18.
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William 1817 marries Charlotte Seymour 5 November 1846 at Great Coxwell, he was of Stanford, his death recorded Great Coxwell 1892.

Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: amondg on Monday 04 August 25 00:13 BST (UK)
Still looking for parents of John Rowland

Daughter Sarah who married James Hudson/Hutson 28 July 1840 the witnesses are William Rowland and Ann Rowland her brother and sister.
It also names John Rowland as her father.

James Hutson/Hudson died 1855 he was 38. Sarah Hutson/Hudson then married George Herman/Hearman 1857.

1851 James Hudson 34 and Sarah 28 are in Marcham with children John 9, Elizabeth 7 and George aged 4.
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1861 Census  Garford
George Herman   27    Ag. Lab.
Sarah  Herman  40      born Stanford     
George Hudson 14
Ann Hudson 9
Thomas Hudson 4
Sarah Herman   3 months
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: ribbo39 on Monday 04 August 25 00:14 BST (UK)
Many thanks for all your help.

Still a mystery of when & who John married.

The only possible marriage I have found is for John Rowland, widower of Newnham to Mary Platt 17-6-1811 in Nately Hants by Licence.

This parish is some distance from Buckland and Stanford in the Vale.

Alan
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: amondg on Monday 04 August 25 01:20 BST (UK)
If they followed naming patterns his father was William (first son named after paternal grandfather)
and his mother Sarah - second daughter named after paternal grandmother.

The first daughter Elizabeth being named for her maternal grandmother.

Elizabeth Rowland servant age 27 married Charles Woodley 7 November 1841 at Radley
Her father John Rowland
His father James Woodley
She died 1842 age 26 ? reg. Abingdon Union -probably after giving birth to son George.

Charles Woodley then marries Hannah Brown 1844 reg. Abingdon
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: amondg on Monday 04 August 25 01:24 BST (UK)
Are there any other Rowland families in the same village ?

Have you found John as a witness to any other marriages.

In case you don't have his son John 1826 was buried age 10 months in 1827 at Stanford in the Vale. 
Title: Re: John Rowland bapt. 1791 Buckland, Berks - married who/where/whenHi all, In my tr
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 04 August 25 15:15 BST (UK)
Many thanks for all your help.

Still a mystery of when & who John married.

The only possible marriage I have found is for John Rowland, widower of Newnham to Mary Platt 17-6-1811 in Nately Hants by Licence.

This parish is some distance from Buckland and Stanford in the Vale.

Alan

There's a John Rowland and Mary Norris marrying in Swindon on 30 Oct 1814. Both residents of Swindon. About 16 miles from Buckland

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wits Henry Noad and William Brewer. John and witnesses signed, Mary made her mark.