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Title: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: COLINBALLINGALL on Friday 01 August 25 12:49 BST (UK)
Hello
I am trying to find my great grandmothers brother, John Ogilvie born 29th Feb 1864 At Alves, Morayshire, Scotland.
He arrived in Queensland on the 30th Dec 1886 on the 'Duke of Sutherland' after his arrival i know nothing, have been looking for a long time for John, did he marry, have children, when did he die ?

Can anyone help.

Colin
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 August 25 13:04 BST (UK)
You could try checking if there is anything on the link below but no guarantees

https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/collection/list?count=20&cqs=australia

Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: COLINBALLINGALL on Friday 01 August 25 13:19 BST (UK)
Thank you i will have a look.
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 01 August 25 13:36 BST (UK)
Can you please provide parents names, occupation, any other details, eg middle name etc.
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 August 25 13:49 BST (UK)
mmn  was Smith but can’t see an obvious 1871 or 1881 entry in Scotland
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: COLINBALLINGALL on Friday 01 August 25 13:57 BST (UK)
parents names were George Ogilvie a dry stone waller 1828 -1876 and Janet Smith c 1832 -1904
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 August 25 14:03 BST (UK)
Can you post full 1871 census details please
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: softly softly on Friday 01 August 25 14:39 BST (UK)
1871--Brackumordry, Alves, Moray, Scotland

George   Ogilvie   Head   Married   Male   42   1829   Labrour   Elgin, Morayshire, Scotland
Jessie   Ogilvie   Wife   Married   Female   32   1839   Wife   Portsoy, Banffshire, Scotland
Mary   Ogilvie   Daughter   Unmarried   Female   12   1859   Scholar   Elgin, Morayshire, Scotland
James   Ogilvie   Son   -   Male   10   1861   Scholar   Elgin, Morayshire, Scotland
John   Ogilvie   Son   -   Male   6   1865   Scholar   Alves, Morayshire, Scotland
Jessie   Ogilvie   Daughter   -   Female   2   1869   -   Alves, Morayshire, Scotland

SS

OGILVIE
JESSIE
SMITH
F
1868
125 / 22
Alves
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 August 25 14:58 BST (UK)
Was that 1871 entry from Ancestry as I have tried every permutation & can't find it? 

If not - can you post the piece/folio/page so I can see whether I can find it under that ref
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: softly softly on Friday 01 August 25 15:09 BST (UK)
Hi Carole, It was from FindMyPast but it only gave a schedule no. (57). Tried same info on Anc and found nothing, tried scotlandspeople and still nothing.

SS
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 August 25 15:15 BST (UK)
At least it's not just me who can't find them on Ancestry ;D
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: softly softly on Friday 01 August 25 15:57 BST (UK)
1871 scotlandspeople

OGILVIE
JOHN
1871
M
6
125/ 1/ 13
Alves
Moray

OGILVIE
JESSIE
1871
F
2
125/ 1/ 13
Alves
Moray

SS


Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 01 August 25 16:00 BST (UK)

1881 census Elgin Moray

Mary Tait 63   Head
Jane Petrie 52   Servant
Barbara Pirie 18   Servant
John Ogilvie   17   Servant. born Alves Elgin.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 01 August 25 16:32 BST (UK)
Still nothing on Ancestry but while searching I came across an interesting 1871 entry for the daughters of the Paul family in Moray

Christina Ross transcribed as Corustiva Roll
Williamina Mary transcribed as Andimina Mary
Harriet Elizabeth transcribed as Hanied Edith

Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: COLINBALLINGALL on Friday 01 August 25 17:20 BST (UK)
i never found them on ancestry, i got them on scotlands people  address Mackamordy schedule 57, i did find their neigbour jane mctavish schedule no 58, they are next door on scotlandspeople, but couldnt get them on ancestry.
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: COLINBALLINGALL on Saturday 02 August 25 09:06 BST (UK)
found them on ancestry 1871 census , under the surnames Dydroe, Dalvis, Michie

Jean Dydroe aged 42 labourer born Elgin, is George Ogilvie, this is the worst transcription error i have ever found.
address is Machamordey, schedule no 57,  reg district Alves
John Dalvis born 1839 portway, should be portsoy is Janet Ogilvie
Mary Michie born 1859 Elgin is Mary Ogilvie
Jane J Michie born 1861 Elgin is James Ogilvie
John Michie born 1865 moray is John Ogilvie
Lyne Michie born 1868 is my great granny Jessie Ogilvie
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 02 August 25 17:08 BST (UK)
Very well done for finding that entry👏👏  Have just replied to your pm

I have seen some bad transcriptions over the years but that one is beyond belief.  However - before blaming the transcriber it would be interesting to see if the original entry is legible
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: COLINBALLINGALL on Saturday 02 August 25 18:28 BST (UK)
Hi Carole

The transcriber needs glasses, the original entry on Scotland's People is clearly readable as Ogilvie. that's that mystery solved.
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 02 August 25 18:58 BST (UK)
Been following this post and agree this must be the worst transcription ever  ::)
Well done in finding it  don't suppose there is much chance in reporting it

Rosie
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: COLINBALLINGALL on Saturday 02 August 25 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie it certainly is the worst i have come across, i gave up looking on Ancestry years ago, i just decided to have another look. if i didn't have the original on Scotland's People i would never have found it.

I will report  it, don't know if it would get sorted, but will report it.

Colin
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 02 August 25 19:50 BST (UK)
I have just amended the names via Ancestry and the amendment is already showing on the entry
Title: Re: John Ogilvie, born 1864, morayshire Scotland
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 02 August 25 19:52 BST (UK)
I have just amended the names via Ancestry and the amendment is already showing on the entry


That's good to know  ;)