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		Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: COLINBALLINGALL on Friday 01 August 25 12:49 BST (UK) 
		
			
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				Hello 
 I am trying to find my great grandmothers brother, John Ogilvie born 29th Feb 1864 At Alves, Morayshire, Scotland.
 He arrived in Queensland on the 30th Dec 1886 on the 'Duke of Sutherland' after his arrival i know nothing, have been looking for a long time for John, did he marry, have children, when did he die ?
 
 Can anyone help.
 
 Colin
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				You could try checking if there is anything on the link below but no guarantees
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/collection/list?count=20&cqs=australia
 
 
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				Thank you i will have a look.
			
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				Can you please provide parents names, occupation, any other details, eg middle name etc.
			
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				mmn  was Smith but can’t see an obvious 1871 or 1881 entry in Scotland
			
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				parents names were George Ogilvie a dry stone waller 1828 -1876 and Janet Smith c 1832 -1904
			
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				Can you post full 1871 census details please
			
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				1871--Brackumordry, Alves, Moray, Scotland
 
 George   Ogilvie   Head   Married   Male   42   1829   Labrour   Elgin, Morayshire, Scotland
 Jessie   Ogilvie   Wife   Married   Female   32   1839   Wife   Portsoy, Banffshire, Scotland
 Mary   Ogilvie   Daughter   Unmarried   Female   12   1859   Scholar   Elgin, Morayshire, Scotland
 James   Ogilvie   Son   -   Male   10   1861   Scholar   Elgin, Morayshire, Scotland
 John   Ogilvie   Son   -   Male   6   1865   Scholar   Alves, Morayshire, Scotland
 Jessie   Ogilvie   Daughter   -   Female   2   1869   -   Alves, Morayshire, Scotland
 
 SS
 
 OGILVIE
 JESSIE
 SMITH
 F
 1868
 125 / 22
 Alves
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				Was that 1871 entry from Ancestry as I have tried every permutation & can't find it?  
 
 If not - can you post the piece/folio/page so I can see whether I can find it under that ref
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				Hi Carole, It was from FindMyPast but it only gave a schedule no. (57). Tried same info on Anc and found nothing, tried scotlandspeople and still nothing.
 
 SS
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				At least it's not just me who can't find them on Ancestry ;D
			
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				1871 scotlandspeople
 
 OGILVIE
 JOHN
 1871
 M
 6
 125/ 1/ 13
 Alves
 Moray
 
 OGILVIE
 JESSIE
 1871
 F
 2
 125/ 1/ 13
 Alves
 Moray
 
 SS
 
 
 
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 1881 census Elgin Moray
 
 Mary Tait 63   Head
 Jane Petrie 52   Servant
 Barbara Pirie 18   Servant
 John Ogilvie   17   Servant. born Alves Elgin.
 
 Sandra
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				Still nothing on Ancestry but while searching I came across an interesting 1871 entry for the daughters of the Paul family in Moray
 
 Christina Ross transcribed as Corustiva Roll
 Williamina Mary transcribed as Andimina Mary
 Harriet Elizabeth transcribed as Hanied Edith
 
 
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				i never found them on ancestry, i got them on scotlands people  address Mackamordy schedule 57, i did find their neigbour jane mctavish schedule no 58, they are next door on scotlandspeople, but couldnt get them on ancestry. 
			
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				found them on ancestry 1871 census , under the surnames Dydroe, Dalvis, Michie
 
 Jean Dydroe aged 42 labourer born Elgin, is George Ogilvie, this is the worst transcription error i have ever found.
 address is Machamordey, schedule no 57,  reg district Alves
 John Dalvis born 1839 portway, should be portsoy is Janet Ogilvie
 Mary Michie born 1859 Elgin is Mary Ogilvie
 Jane J Michie born 1861 Elgin is James Ogilvie
 John Michie born 1865 moray is John Ogilvie
 Lyne Michie born 1868 is my great granny Jessie Ogilvie
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				Very well done for finding that entry👏👏  Have just replied to your pm
 
 I have seen some bad transcriptions over the years but that one is beyond belief.  However - before blaming the transcriber it would be interesting to see if the original entry is legible
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				Hi Carole
 
 The transcriber needs glasses, the original entry on Scotland's People is clearly readable as Ogilvie. that's that mystery solved.
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				Been following this post and agree this must be the worst transcription ever  ::)
 Well done in finding it  don't suppose there is much chance in reporting it
 
 Rosie
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				Hi Rosie it certainly is the worst i have come across, i gave up looking on Ancestry years ago, i just decided to have another look. if i didn't have the original on Scotland's People i would never have found it.
 
 I will report  it, don't know if it would get sorted, but will report it.
 
 Colin
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				I have just amended the names via Ancestry and the amendment is already showing on the entry
			
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				I have just amended the names via Ancestry and the amendment is already showing on the entry
 
 
 
 That's good to know  ;)