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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: bobtonks on Thursday 31 July 25 17:47 BST (UK)
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On 1st November 1867 James Symonds married Ann Maria Pamenter at Swaffham Prior, Newmarket.
Can anyone identify her parents ?
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Marriage cert is online - 2 of the witnesses are same surname. Have you looked for a birth reg or earlier census
What is her birthyear & birthplace on the 1871 census
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Freebmd shows surname as PaRmenter
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Spinster? Widow? How old was she etc
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In 1881 her age is recorded as 31 years (1850) and in 1891 , 42 years (1849)
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And where was she born? Have you looked for her on earlier censuses? Have you checked freebmd for a birth reg?
See my reply - witnesses to marriage were same surname
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Could be this birth, no mother's maiden name given, so probably unmarried
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PAMMENTER, MARIA -
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 92
She's with her grandparents in 1851
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I can't see the marriage certificate. What are the full names of the witnesses?
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You can find her on the 1851 as Pamenter aged 2 & as Pamenter in 1861 aged 9
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Have a look at Anne Pameter granddaughter age 2 in 1851
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Link to marriage cert
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62619/records/91467693
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I found Ann age 2 living with her Grandparents, Samuel and Elizabeth in Swaffham Prior
and age 12 still living with them in 1861 ... transcribed as "Paineter" in FindMyPast
I couldn't find Ann aged 9 years in 1861.
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Would suggest one of the daughters was her mother. One has a 9 year old Parmeter with her on the next census.
Have you looked for births on the GRO yet?
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Birth given in earlier reply on previous page. Easily found on freebmd
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Nothing obvious on GRO or Freebmd
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See reply 5
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1861 age 12 - not 9 (typo - sorry) but still easily found in 1861 if you follow the 1851 entry
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If you check out the other grandchildren on the 1851 using GRO online you will find 2 more were illegitimate
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Six grand children to Samuel and Elizabeth Pammeter of Swaffham Prior, with no obvious parents.
Robert 1843, Joseph 1847, Ann 1849, Charles 1849, Emma 1854 and Frederick 1861.
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If you need to know the mothers name for Ann Maria you can download a digital copy of the birth cert for £3
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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If you need to know the mothers name for Ann Maria you can download a digital copy of the birth cert for £3
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
Equally you could download her twin brothers birth record to establish mother's christian name.
PAMMENTER, ALFRED CHARLES -
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 92
PAMMENTER, MARIA -
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 92
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