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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Lambeth48 on Thursday 31 July 25 16:15 BST (UK)
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Hi
Arthur Edgar Jewson, was my great grandfather, born 10 Jan 1847 in King’s Lynn.
He married Amelia Caroline Wearing in 1868 and their daughter Mabel Lilian Jewson was my paternal grandmother.
The last Census I know to be him is 1891, although transcription has it Janson not Jewson!
I have found other records for the name Alfred Edgar Jewson beyond the 1891 census but the information they contain contradictory so I am not sure they do actually relate to my great grandfather.
Could he have died during WW1 and his civilian death not recorded and therefore the reason I cannot find anything.
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Hello, and welcome to Rootschat. I’m responding mainly to bump this up the list. I have had a quick look for the death but have not found anything conclusive.
I did note that in 1891 there are visitors in the Jewson household —Arthur and Elizabeth Aldgate — and in 1901 Alfred Jewson’s youngest son Edwin, 17, is recorded as nephew in the household of the same Arthur and Elizabeth Aldgate. This is consistent with Alfred having died before 1901, but it isn’t very strong evidence.
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Have you ruled out this one?
Deaths Sep 1895
Jewson Alfred 47 Camberwell 1d 557
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Have you ruled out this one?
Deaths Sep 1895
Jewson Alfred 47 Camberwell 1d 557
This might help to positively identify if he is yours.
The Standard
London, Greater London, England
Thu, 5 Sept 1895
Page 1
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-standard/178065537/
Sandra
Added Seems this one was married to Christine Shawl Eastwick in 1875 so not yours.......... :-\
Marriages Dec 1875
Eastwick Christiana Shawl King's L. 4b 967
JEWSON Alfred King's L. 4b 967
FIND A GRAVE
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01twi/
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Alfred JEWSON at 37 Albert Rd Peckham is with wife Christiana in 1891. So yes, he is the wrong one.
May I ask whether his name is Arthur Edgar, or Alfred Edgar? You mention both.
Also, welcome to RootsChat. :)
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He is in the Southwark area in 1894 electoral rolls, at Same address as 1891 census, 15 Thurlow Street.
If it the same Alfred he is at 77 Duncan Buildings in Finsbury in 1898 until 1902.
There is an Alfred in Clerkenwell in 1911 born in Kings Lynn, but he is 60. Mother Mary Ann is there and some children. Is this one of the other contradictory ones you found.
mckha489, I think this is the one you found.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218264292/alfred-jewson
Can't see him in 1901 census anywhere.
Ian C
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There is an Alfred JEWSON, 47, born Kings Lynn in 77 Duncan Buildings Holborn in 1901, with wife Mary (38) and a number of step children and younger children. He is a general labourer though. :-\
RG13/247/136 pg 43
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When Mabel Lillian marries in 1898 it does not say Alfred is deceased, which it sometime does. Also when Millie marries in 1908, the same.
Ian C
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There is a marriage, Southwark 1894
Mary Hunter and an Alfred Edgar Jewson same page.
They can be seen in 1901 with some Hunter step children
(Modified as doubling up info)
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Another to discount
Deaths Mar 1895
Jewson Alfred 36 Poplar 1c 471
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-norwood-news/178065934/
Sandra
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Amelia died in 1890.
Jewson Amelia Caroline 39 Poplar 1c 347
Ian C
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The one who married Mary Hunter in 1894 must have died between 1911 & 1921 as Mary is widowed in 1921.
There is this death
Deaths Jun 1916 (>99%)
Jewson Alfred 64 Croydon 2a 488
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Alfred is at 5 Wilmington Place in Clerkenwell in 1911, with his mother Mary Ann and the three youngest Jewson children from the 1901 census, Arthur, Beatrice and Olive.
This is the one I mentioned earlier.
Ian C
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When Beatrice married to Charles Hennessey in 1922, father listed as Edgar (dec)
Olive married John Halfacre. Olive died 1920
Olive Halfacre - 1900 - 1920 (aged 20 years)
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec London
Volume 1c Page 5
Sandra
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The son Arthur Edgar Jewson listed his mother on UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920 - 12 th June 1915
Died 1917 - mother sole leg on register soldiers effects
Arthur Edgar Jewson Birth Place Southwark, Surrey
Residence Brondesbury, Middx.
Death Date 27 Sep 1917 Death Place France and Flanders
Enlistment Place St. Pancras, Middx.
Rank Rifleman Regiment Rifle Brigade
Battalion 16th Battalion
Regimental Number P/1319
Type of Casualty Killed in action.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01twj/
Sandra
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Some of the trees on Ancestry have Alfred's death as 1940.
There is an Alfred in the 1939 register, born 1850, with three females, Amelia, Edith and Ethel, whose birth dates match with children of Alfred Edgar and Amelia Caroline. They are in Bromley.
There is this death in Jun qtr 1940
Jewson Alfred 89 Bromley 2a 1539
Ian C
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https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/f560a178-5f2a-42fe-868a-7b3635425c90
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The Bromley Alfred is a retired Butler
In 1911 in Bromley there is an Alfred Jewson age 60, who is a butler to a paper manufacturer. and married
And he says he was born Lincolnshire, parish unknown.
He has also helpfully said he has been married 39 years and has had 8 children, one has died.
Ethel L Jewson (in the 1939) can be seen in London in 1921. Teaching. She says she was born Bromley. So I think am sure this is a different Alfred. (Who married Amelia Ann Daysh in 1872)
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These are the two families who seem to be getting mixed. I agree with mckha489 that the Bromley Alfred is not correct.
It could be worth getting sight of the 1916 death certificate mentioned earlier.
Deaths Jun 1916
Jewson Alfred 64 Croydon 2a 488
1881 census 4 Devonport Terrace. West Ham.
Alfred E. Jewson 32 Draper born Kings Lynn 1849.
Amelia R.? Jewson 31
Amelia J. (Julia) Jewson12 Marriage cert (1908) says father a Draper.
Lavenda L. Jewson 5 Marriage cert (1895) says father a Printer.
Walter W. Jewson 3 Marriage cert (1899) says father a Steward.
Mat C.L. (Mabel) Jewson 1 Marriage cert (1898) says father a Printer.
Julia E. Wearing 55
1881 census 18 Southborough Road. Bromley
Alfred Jewson 29 Head. Gardener. Died 1940.
Amelia A. Jewson (Daysh) 29 Wife. Died 1920
Alfred G. (George) Jewson 8 Son. Died 1955
Frederick W. Jewson 6 Son. Died 1959
Herbert E. Jewson 4 Son. Died 1908
Walter H. (Henry) Jewson 3 Son. Died 1963
Amelia Ellen Jewson 1 Daughter. Died Unmarried 1968.
Edith Elizh. Jewson Daughter. Died unmarried 1963
Sandra
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I see the problem, two guys with the same name of a similar age both marrying women with the same christian name. Some of the trees on Ancestry would appear to have well and truly confused the two as well.
Ian C
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I agree that the 1916 death looks most promising.
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I agree that the 1916 death looks most promising.
You might also have to get the 1894 marriage certificate.
But Beatrice (child in the family we found in 1911) at her marriage says her father Edgar was a printer.
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One part of the son Arthur Edgar's army records state that his father is deceased. Declared by his mother in 1919.
Ian C
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Alfred moved to Wilmington Place by 1906 according to electoral rolls. Appears there until 1914 when he is in Chapel Row. Also there in 1915 and then disappears.
No Alfred in 1916 at all that I can see so as has been said before the 1916 death looks promising.
Ian C
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the 1916 death looks promising.
The Holborn Union had a workhouse at Mitcham, in Croydon RD.
So maybe a look at the London workhouse records on ancestry, see if there is anything for Alfred?
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FindMyPast has Southwark Vaccination Registers
Month - September; Sub District - Christchurch; Address - 46 Surrey Row; Name of Child - Arthur Edgar Jewson; Sex - B; Name of Parent - Alfred Edgar Jewson; Occupation - Printer; When Vac. given - 6 Sep 1895; To Whom Given - Mother; Date of Certificate of Successful Vaccination - 3 Jan 1896
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The Holborn Union had a workhouse at Mitcham, in Croydon RD.
So maybe a look at the London workhouse records on ancestry, see if there is anything for Alfred?
City Road workhouse
Admitted 2 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851. Says married.
Discharged, 5 February, as Edward Jewson, 65, to Mitcham
Mitcham workhouse
Admitted 5 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851.
Discharge, 9 June 1916
Alfred Jewson, 65, Dead
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The Holborn Union had a workhouse at Mitcham, in Croydon RD.
So maybe a look at the London workhouse records on ancestry, see if there is anything for Alfred?
City Road workhouse
Admitted 2 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851. Says married.
Discharged, 5 February, as Edward Jewson, 65, to Mitcham
Mitcham workhouse
Admitted 5 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851.
Discharge, 9 June 1916
Alfred Jewson, 65, Dead
Excellent jonwarrn - OP will be delighted.
All the best
Sandra