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Title: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: garlands on Wednesday 30 July 25 14:37 BST (UK)
Richard and Elizabeth PHIPPARD baptized 5 children in Dorchester:-

1770    Elizabeth
1771    Richard
1774    James
1777    Mary
1785    Martha

I've not been able to find the marriage of Richard and Elizabeth. Can anyone help, please?

There is an earlier baptism, (Peter, 1767) which may or may not be linked, in Langton Matravers, with the father's name Richard but the mother is Priscilla. I've not been able to find this marriage, nor a burial of Priscilla, nor any further offspring attributed to this couple. Is this the same Richard?
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 30 July 25 14:49 BST (UK)
Have you tried searching under PHEPPARD ?
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: jusnoneed on Wednesday 30 July 25 14:52 BST (UK)
https://www.opcdorset.org/fordingtondorset/Files2/DorchesterStrays1.html#richardphippard1769

found this on Dorset OPC, Elizabeths baptism (shown in separate page) also shows her as the fourth child of Richard and Elizabeth.
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: garlands on Wednesday 30 July 25 17:10 BST (UK)
No trace of PHEPPARD
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: garlands on Wednesday 30 July 25 17:54 BST (UK)
jusnoneed

Thank you.

Absolutely fascinating, and pushes the missing marriage back to ca 1763 but, infuriatingly, no actual record and no bride's surname.
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: Bookbox on Wednesday 30 July 25 18:13 BST (UK)
There is an earlier baptism, (Peter, 1767) which may or may not be linked, in Langton Matravers, with the father's name Richard but the mother is Priscilla. I've not been able to find this marriage, nor a burial of Priscilla, nor any further offspring attributed to this couple. Is this the same Richard?

Have you tried searching under PHEPPARD ?

No trace of PHEPPARD

Name   Rachel Pheppard
Event Type   Baptism
Baptism Date   2 Sep 1764
Baptism Place   Langton Matravers, Dorset, England
Father - Richard Pheppard
Mother - Priscilla Pheppard

Name   Priscilla Pheppard
Event Type   Baptism
Baptism Date   18 Dec 1768
Baptism Place   Langton Matravers, Dorset, England
Father - Richard Pheppard
Mother - Priscilla Pheppard
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: jusnoneed on Wednesday 30 July 25 18:31 BST (UK)
https://www.opcdorset.org/fordingtondorset/Files/DorchesterPrisonRegister1809.html#richardphippard1828
I tried putting Richard Phippard in the search box on the home page and came up with this about his son. There are other Phippard  records that show up.
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: garlands on Thursday 31 July 25 09:46 BST (UK)
Thanks, both.

It would appear that there are 2 distinct families (Langton Matravers and Dorchester) with only the latter being of interest to me.
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: amondg on Thursday 31 July 25 21:05 BST (UK)
Not necessarily two families.

Even with a possible two marriages by Richard one to Priscilla and the other to Elizabeth, the daughter

 Elizabeth could still be the 4th child of Richard.
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: amondg on Thursday 31 July 25 21:14 BST (UK)
Richard Pheppard married Priscilla Gower 24 February 1764 at Langton Matravers

in the presence of Samuel Luckes? and William Smith

Ref ancestry 
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 01 August 25 11:56 BST (UK)
Elizabeth FIPPARD buried 2 February 1818 All Saints', Dorchester, Dorset
Age 83 (c 1735) Wife of RICHARD Fippard

There is also a Rich FIPPARD buried same Church 4 September 1821 age 78 (c 1743)
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 01 August 25 13:31 BST (UK)
Hello
Richard also seems to appear on the Militia lists filling in for others
1761-64 Richard labourer of Dorchester fpr Richard Tiffin of Earlsbury g.
1765 Richard age 22 lab of Blandford 5ft 5in single  for Stephen Pampton ? apothecary Pimporne Warnership.
1768 Richard  26 of Blandord married 1 child ,gardener  5ft 7in .For Henry Field Piddletown
Which suggest a marriage 1765-8 and possibly Rebecca was born before the marriage.
Rebecca says on the 1841 census born in Dorset.Shame she dies 10.3.1851.(husband William Clare).Jane is the same and again she dies before the 1851 -3.8.1847 Fordington .(husband George Winzor).
And frustratingly no sign of John.

The burial of the 2 girls at Fordington might suggest a  connection with David Phippard and Mary Lush married there in 3.4.1727.It looks like son David bapt 31.7. 1733  moved to Dorchester.
David junior married Anne Humber at Dorchester 21,2.1757 .2 children Mary 20.6.1758 and Ann 4.2.1761.
David junior was a barber in Dorchester who was exempt from serving in the Militia 1762.He died 21.5.1771 at Dorchester All Saints.
David senior looks like he ran the pub in Fordington -the Sign of the Last.(Ale house licence 30.9.1766.)

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: PHIPPARD ca 1770
Post by: garlands on Friday 01 August 25 19:23 BST (UK)
Thank you, all. Much for me to digest.