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Title: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Ronda231 on Friday 25 July 25 13:53 BST (UK)
I would be very grateful if someone could tell me the place name on this 1805 free Church baptism record

John Drysdale Carter ????? -------a son -------named John

Many thanks and best regards

Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Millmoor on Friday 25 July 25 14:02 BST (UK)
Possibly Walk. Leith Walk is a thoroughfare between Leith and Edinburgh. The entry below John Drysdale's seems to have the same place name.

William
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Ronda231 on Friday 25 July 25 14:06 BST (UK)
That was quick!

Thank you very much Millmoor.

That seems like a good option

Best regards
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: oldfashionedgirl on Friday 25 July 25 14:11 BST (UK)
I thought it might be the father’s profession as the entry above says ‘wright’ as in wheelwright.
Having read a few of these the fathers trade is usually mentioned.
As to what that trade is I’m still puzzling.
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: oldfashionedgirl on Friday 25 July 25 14:13 BST (UK)
Think it might say carter work as in delivering.
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Ronda231 on Friday 25 July 25 19:00 BST (UK)
Thankyou oldfashionedgirl for your help on this - it could be Carter 'work'- as the first entry on the preceding page mentions Kirkgate Brickwork Close & the work is similar but I think that 'Walk' may be a better option.

Many thanks & best regards
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: GR2 on Friday 25 July 25 20:01 BST (UK)
It definitely says Walk. It also appears later on the page. The writer doesn't always put a dash between the occupation and the residence. There are several examples of a capital W, for example at Water further down the page, and the second letter is definitely an a - it is formed exactly the same as the a in Drysdale and the a in carter.
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Ronda231 on Saturday 26 July 25 00:54 BST (UK)
Thank you GR2 for a definitive transcription of this word.

Best regards
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Rena on Saturday 26 July 25 16:00 BST (UK)
I agree with the others. 

Leith Walk was extremely busy with many ships needing to be loaded and unloaded.  This meant that carters (men with horse and cart, or just a man pulling a cart) were also very busy to-ing and fro-ing from client to ship.. 
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: David Nicoll on Saturday 26 July 25 20:16 BST (UK)
If you haven’t already come across it.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/117746141

Gives an idea of Leith at the time.
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Ronda231 on Tuesday 29 July 25 13:46 BST (UK)
Thank You Rena and David Nicholl for this additional info.

Best regards
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 30 July 25 02:05 BST (UK)
As well as a carter, I have a "deputy dockmaster" in my ancestry so following your query about a carter I decided to see how busy the chap would be.  I had quite a shock when I saw there were several enormous bonded warehouses several storeys high. 

A bonded warehouse, also known as a customs warehouse, is a secure facility where imported goods can be stored before customs duties and taxes are paid

Specifically, Leith was granted one of only six licenses in Scotland for storing whisky under bond in 1822. This marked a shift in the warehouse usage, as whisky, initially considered a lower-class drink, gained prominence.
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: David Nicoll on Wednesday 30 July 25 05:39 BST (UK)
Rena,

    Hi, bonds aka bonded warehouses were when historically where whisky and other spirits were stored for maturation. Historically duty was paid after this process.
There were several distilleries in Edinburgh and Leith.

Crabbies and Drambuie had premises in Leith.

Some interesting information here.

https://www.tartanspoon.co.uk/home/drink-crabbies-distillery-leith.
https://crabbiewhisky.com/the-john-crabbie-co-story/
Title: Re: Leith - Kirkgate Associate church - Help for place name on 1805 baptism record
Post by: Rena on Thursday 31 July 25 22:49 BST (UK)
Rena,

    Hi, bonds aka bonded warehouses were when historically where whisky and other spirits were stored for maturation. Historically duty was paid after this process.
There were several distilleries in Edinburgh and Leith.

Crabbies and Drambuie had premises in Leith.

Some interesting information here.

https://www.tartanspoon.co.uk/home/drink-crabbies-distillery-leith.
https://crabbiewhisky.com/the-john-crabbie-co-story/

Hi David,
All very interesting, especially to those who are researching this part of  the UK.

I was born and brought up in the port of Kington Upon Hull, England and once (in the 1950s) was taken into the town's warehouses by the River Humber.  One particular warehouse held 7,000 cattle!!   I hasten to add that I didn't count them - I was given the information lol