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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: Pheno on Monday 21 July 25 14:19 BST (UK)
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Hi, trying to find baptism details for Timothy Vinton/Winton & variants bap 1768 poss in Kent near border with Sussex (no trace of a Sussex baptism), he flits between the two counties for most of his life.
He married Mary Elliott 20 Feb 1792 Beckley, Sussex and had 3 daughters bap. Beckley viz. Mary 1792, Jane 1793 & Charlotte 1795.
My descent is through Mary (1792) and her illegitimate daughter Harriett b. 1813 Wittersham, Kent. I am satisfied that I have her and her descendant details but I am trying to trace Timothy back.
He seems to have died as Timothy Vinton in Tenterden district Mar qtr 1849 aged 83 giving possible birthdate of 1766. He is in the 1841 census (HO107/479/20/4) in Wittersham with an unknown 60 year old Sarah Winton.
I wondered if anybody could find a suitable baptism for him in Kent - there is nothing suitable in Sussex. There is though, a Timothy Coppin, bap Chart Sutton, Kent in 1767 to parents John Coppin & Mary. This Timothy seems to disappear from records after this baptism and there is no record of a marriage between John Coppin & Mary so just a theory that maybe Timothy Coppin became Timothy Vinton, and could his mother Mary be the Mary Vinton bap 1749 Brenchley, Kent to Abraham & Mary Vinton (née Riley).
Any info to confirm or disprove this theory most welcome, or any other thoughts on the origins of Timothy Vinton/Winton please.
Thanks, Pheno
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Sarah Winton / Vinton is on 1851 and 1861 censuses. She is born abt 1780/1 in Wittersham. In 1851 she has granddaughter Martha Whatman with her, age 9 also b Wittersham
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Martha's mmn is Sims
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Thanks Lizzie, I had just that minute discovered who Sarah was but hadn't a chance to look for any further info so very timely.
Pheno
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Martha's parents are William and Eliza (baptism on FindMyPast)
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Looks like William b abt 1803 illeg son of Sarah Whatman
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Sarah Watman spinster married Timothy Vintain (sic) widower on 04 Dec 1808. wits: Mark Ridley and Wm. Sisley
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There's a Hannah Vinten bapt 08 Apr 1798 Wittersham d/o Timothy and Mary
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Thanks Lizzie for that info - its what I was trying to capture. My head has been going in circles trying to tie Timothy Vinten down, so much so that I haven't really come forward at all.
Pheno
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There is a Henry Coppin baptised to John and Mary on 16 Jul 1769 in Sutton Valence.
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Also a ELEANOR Vinton bapt 16 Mar 1806 All Saints, Iden, Sussex to Timothy/Mary
FreeREG also has bapt Wittersham;
JUDITH 22 Sep 1796
HANNAH 08 Apr 1798
CHARLOTTE 13 Apr 1799
Parents are Timothy/Mary but Charlotte has Samuel/Mary mistake???
Burials of;
ELIZABETH 18 Nov 1807 and JULIA 04 Dec 1807 no ages given but Julia may be Judith.
Charlotte has a son William 1814 who died same year
Mary bapts Harriet 20 Jun 1813 and James Longley 14 Jan 1816 and and as you know married James Longely soon after.
Charlotte married James Edmonds 17 Aug 1816 with nsent of Parents.
Not really much help with your query though ::)
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Thanks Trish, those details will help. It is just so tempting to equate Timothy Coppin with Timothy Vinten as so far, no names/dates overlap ruling out this possibility and one appears as the other disappears.
Pheno