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David Blair Wilson b c 1830 Stirlingshire, John Wilson b c 1828 are unmarried brothers. They are in Wrexham in 1878 as pub landlords.
They are in 1881 and later census in Wrexham .They both died in Wrexham.
The only clue I have is this in 1878 but no idea which one it refers to. It has been edited. it is probably David Blair Wilson.
THE ROYAL OAK LICENSE.—it was stated that Mr Wilson, who applied for the endorsement of the licence had been a member of the Edinburgh Detective Police Force. This was an error, and arose out of a statement made that Detective Hayes, of that force, had known Mr Wilson for some years, and could testify as to his character .
I am trying to find them before they came to Wrexham but not having any luck.
Did they come from Scotland to Wrexham or had they been somewhere else.
Thanks.
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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/133937325/david-blair-wilson
Gives a date of birth of 19th April 1829
Not much help, I know
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Probate entry mentions he was of the Walnut Tree Hotel Wrexham and names as Executors
James Blair Mc Lean printer nephew
Annie Wilson niece
Agnes Gillespie spinster
in case those names lead to anything useful
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This 1841 census in Stirling has a David & John
Peter Wilson 50 occ stone m
Margaret 50
William 20 occ stone m
Peter 15
John 10
David 10
Christian 20 (female)
Margaret 8
John 31 occ stone m
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Death for John Wilson 1889 - probate entry reads of The Royal Oak Inn High St Wrexham
David Wilson of Bridge House Inn Wrexham the sole Executor
None of which helps going back but adds some more pub names
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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/133937325/david-blair-wilson
Gives a date of birth of 19th April 1829
Not much help, I know
Thanks, I had seen the burial entry but not the grave,
1901 Wales Census for Jane H McIntosh, she was a barmaid at the Walnut , single born Kilmarnock , Ayrshire , so perhaps not related.
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Difficult to find in earlier censuses but there is this chap:
1871
2 E Maitland Street, Edinburgh
David Wilson , 42 yrs b Larbert, Stirlingshire , Veterinary Student & Lodging House Keeper
Margaret Wilson, 40 yrs, sister, house keeper, b Larbert
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Difficult to find in earlier censuses but there is this chap:
1871
2 E Maitland Street, Edinburgh
David Wilson , 42 yrs b Larbert, Stirlingshire , Veterinary Student & Lodging House Keeper
Margaret Wilson, 40 yrs, sister, house keeper, b Larbert
Maybe , but quite a change in occupation, however my David according to the MI was born in Carron.
Carron, vil., Larbert par., Stirlingshire, near river Carron, 2 miles NW. of Falkirk,
Thanks
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I posted that one because in 1891 4619/108/19, his birth place is recorded as ‘Larbor’, Stirlingshire and the Edinburgh connection.
Also, he does have a sister, Margaret of the right age in 1841.
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David Blair Wilson was at the Royal Oak in 1878, according to a newspaper article when his coals were stolen
he took on the licence of the Bridge Inn in 1880
Short death notice: https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3663322/3663325/30/wilson%2BAND%2Broyal%2BOR%2Boak%2BAND%2Bwrexham?from=search
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David Blair Wilson was at the Royal Oak in 1878, according to a newspaper article when his coals were stolen
he took on the licence of the Bridge Inn in 1880
Short death notice: https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3663322/3663325/30/wilson%2BAND%2Broyal%2BOR%2Boak%2BAND%2Bwrexham?from=search
Thanks, I have them from 1878 in Wrexham.
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Re. 1871 census. Lodging house keeper, could have gone on to be a publican.
I can't find anything more so am settling for that.
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Just an observation - in 1881, David is a ‘Bar Man’ and his brother is the ‘Inn Keeper’.
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To note, the licensee of the Walnut Tree Inn before David was a William Wilson who died in 1884 aged 6. He'd previously been the manager of Wrexham Colliery.
this leads me to him on 1871, at Sunny Bank, Rhosddu. Born Perth
Might be a complete coincidence that two Scottish people called Wilson ran that pub in succession
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1881 census Walnut Tree Hotal
William WILSON 63 born Scotland Hotel Keeper
Ann S Wilson wife 49 born Cumberland
Ann Stout 16 born Cumberland
1871 census Gwersyllt, Denbighshire
William Wilson 50 born Perth Scotland, Colliery Manager
Elizabeth Wilson 43 wife born Kirkcaldy Scotland
1861 census Ruabon Denbighshire
William WILSON 41, born Scotland, colliery steward
Ann Wilson 29 wife, born Cumberland
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....... however my David according to the MI was born in Carron.
According to 1901 census, born in Carronshore.