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Title: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Poppy62 on Monday 21 July 25 08:20 BST (UK)
Hello All
Hitting my head off a brick wall ::)

I have been searching Robert James Goodfellow Clarke and have found quite a lot of information on him..

Born 25/1/1918 to Catherine Goodfellow Clarke ( no father mentioned)

1921 Census son  to his grandparents James Clarke & Mary Clarke ( maiden name Moore) ???

Next I find lots of information about him in a Japanese Prisoner of war camp WW2

The last  information I can find about him is when he gives a statement about the ill treatment committed against him and his comrades He gave this statement to the Central Police Office, Turnbull Street, Glasgow, on 25th January, 1947.

I have tried marriages  after 1947 date with no success.
I have tried  deaths after 1947 date and used Catherine ( MOTHER) maiden name but also his grandmother maiden name as it appears he may have been brought up by them ( 1921 census and some information on war records)
Im stuck now , any help would be most apprieciated. :)
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 21 July 25 08:42 BST (UK)
There are several marriages of Robert J G Clarkes in England after 1947. See screenshot.

You can order copies of these certificates from the GRO https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: scotmum on Monday 21 July 25 08:51 BST (UK)
If not already done, have you considered checking death records for either/both his grandparents, especially if after 1947, in case any clues there (eg if Robert was informant)? Did the 1947 statement include an address for him?
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Poppy62 on Monday 21 July 25 09:26 BST (UK)
Thank you Forfarian this is very helpful . I will certainly have a look at these. :)

Thank you Scotmum I have both Mary and James death certificated the informant on both was there daughter Catherine ( Robert James Goodfellow's mother). :)
Thankyou both for your help.

Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Poppy62 on Monday 21 July 25 09:29 BST (UK)
Just an after thought

Is the information on and English marriage certificate the same as Scotland marriages? :)
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: rosie17 on Monday 21 July 25 10:34 BST (UK)
As far as I know the information on the marriage certificate for England only gives the father's name
It will give the ages of the couple and occupation and name of witnesses

There is a death for a Robert James Clark
August 1995  Bristol age 77
Date of birth 25 January 1918

Might be worth checking

Rosie
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Poppy62 on Monday 21 July 25 11:02 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie.

I did order that certificate a couple of years ago as I was convince I had the right Robert because of the birth date. Sadly it did not give any names of parents if I remember correctly. So I dont know if I have the right certificate. I did keep it just in case.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 21 July 25 12:32 BST (UK)
Just an after thought

Is the information on and English marriage certificate the same as Scotland marriages? :)
No. The couple's mothers' names are not included in English marriage certificates.

And English death certs don't have the names of the deceased person's parents.
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Poppy62 on Monday 21 July 25 14:41 BST (UK)
So frustrating  just makes it more difficult to know if you have the correct ancestor. ::)

Thanks Forfarian for this information  :)
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: scotmum on Monday 21 July 25 15:21 BST (UK)
Sometimes, when working using the individual's name is getting nowhere, going back over old research and focusing on known addresses can provide a new angle of approach. Searching based on the address/addresses known can, for example, throw up newspaper and/or other references that might ultimately link to the individual or an associate/family member and provide new avenues to pursue.
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Poppy62 on Monday 21 July 25 15:29 BST (UK)
Great advice Scotmum , thank you
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 21 July 25 16:23 BST (UK)
I think if you have a death certificate with a matching date of birth, and you can't find a possible other Robert James Clarke born in that date, it will be the right person.

Does the death cert say who his wife was?
Title: Re: Robert James Goodfellow Clarke
Post by: Poppy62 on Monday 21 July 25 16:54 BST (UK)
I  can’t remember , I would have to fish it out .  I will have a look and see,  it’s been a couple of years since I looked at it. However think you might be right.
Thanks again