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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: Muddipaws on Sunday 20 July 25 11:53 BST (UK)
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Good morning everyone, I am trying to find the 1901 census for the Naughton / Corcoran Family. I can find the 1911, but the 1901 has evaded me for some time.
Father is Thomas Naughton or Naughten Born 1845, Castlebar
Wife is Bridget Naughton / Corcoran (married in 1874) born 1855 Doonaroya
Children are Mary (Anne) Naughton B1875, Catherine Naughton B1876, james Naughton b1878, Bridget B1879, Margaret B1882, Patrick B1884, thomas B 1886, Norah B1889 and john B1891.
I have all the Birth Registrations, for all the children but not the 1901 census. I have looked in the old and new National Census Archives and failed miserably. Any idea what else I can do, and if not found what is likely the explanation for this record to be missing - thank you in advance
They were from County Mayo, are roman Catholic and the first child Mary was baptised in Addergoole, Mayo (where my family is from on my mother / Grandfather side). I cannot upload the actual document it is too big
Additional Info: Catherine 1876, James 1878, Bridget 1879, Margaret 1882, Patrick 1884, Thomas 1886 and Honor 1889. All born at Doonaroya.
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Is this the family in 1911?
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Deel/Knockbrack/702184/
If so return doesn’t appear in search but Thomas is on the house and building return
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001061576/
It may be possible to find them but I can’t do it on my iPad
Either by going through the images by changing the last number in the address or using the images on FamilySearch (I have to find the link for that)
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Is this the family in 1911?
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Deel/Knockbrack/702184/
If so return doesn’t appear in search but Thomas is on the house and building return
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001061576/
It may be possible to find them but I can’t do it on my iPad
Either by going through the images by changing the last number in the address or using the images on FamilySearch (I have to find the link for that)
Yes that is the famil, and I do have 1911, I just am unable to find 1901.
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The house and building return is 1901
Sorry that wasn’t clear in my post.
Family Search link
https://www.familysearch.org/en/records/images/search-results?page=1&place=2818&endDate=1901&startDate=1901&lifeEvent=105057&lifeEventRecordTypes=123363
You need to find the correct DED than find the townland and hope the image of the return is there.
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I find the F S difficult - never seen it before, Sinann.
However, by chance I clicked on Deel and scrolled through to Knockbrack. Unfortunately, the information looks to be the same as the National Census 1901.
It begins here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6X9R-MW?view=explore&groupId=M9SS-WP4&lang=en
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The family search is mind boggling. When I was in the national Archives I chose Deel and did the two spellings of the surname. That showed nothing. I then took Deel out and just left Mayo. Nothing. I then chose each person by name, nothing
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Looks like the return was either missed by the person doing the images or went missing at some point earlier.
At least with the house and building return you know they were living in Knockbrack with 6 people in the house on the 5th April 1901.
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Thank you, I have spent a long time with every option and sometimes you can miss the finer details. At least it is not just me. Thankyou so very much
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When I’ve looked through images for Dublin on FamilySearch the person doing the images kindly puts in a note if a name on the House and Building Return doesn’t have a Census return, very handy.
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Almost forgot you should also look at the abstract form, it gives number of males and females in each house.
https://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001061574/
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census of ireland
2 - Knockbrack, Deel address of James Lynett, Bridget Lynett, Michael Lynett
as mention before Thomas Naughton mention with 6 members of his family on the House and Building return at this address
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As one can imagine, it was easily possible for the person doing the scanning to turn two pages, when they only meant to turn one.
The evidence from the online returns available demonstrate that this is precisely what happened. If you look at the return for James Lynnott, you can see from the bent over rear corner of the preceding page, that that page was a house return page, rather than a building return. So the 1901 return for the Naughton family does exist, it was simply unscanned.
I would also note that I believe the 1901 census was only scanned once, so the images on the NAI, FS and Ancestry sites all have the same origin, so an error on one is an error on all (at the scanning level).
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Do you know if there was a Electrol list done for 1901 for Mayo they may be on that