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Please can anyone help to track my 1st Cousin 5 x rem Robert James born in 1812 in Paul Cornwall . The only bits of info I have are that he was a master mariner at some point . There was a large family and his Son Llewelyn b 1849 in Flint Wales emigrated to Buenos Aires about 1875 with his family . I have no info of Llewelyn in Argentina . It would be nice to see the outcomes for this line of my family . Thank you .
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There is a published tree with some information.
Are you looking for Robert in censuses etc?
There is this online burial record for Llewellyn James
https://en.geneanet.org/cemetery/view/10743037
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Spotted a Merchant Seaman record on FindMyPast for a
Robert James, born 1811, age 24, St Paul, Newlyn - Captain (C) of the Cornubia 1835/1836 and the Susan '39.
Sound like your man?.
First record I've checked.
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A 2nd record has a Robert James, Newlyn, age 33, Captain - the details are in code which don't identify the vessel etc.may not be able to.
Note - there's more than one Robert James about - care needs to be exercised!
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There's an item in Lloyds List, 16 Oct 1835
PENZANCE
Arrived from Cardiff, 13th, Cornubia, James, leaky.
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https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3392354/3392357/33/cornubia%2BOR%2Bjames?from=search
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https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3631720/3631721/6/cornubia%2BOR%2Bjames?from=search
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thanks to you all for the contributions it is good of you to research Robert . i am not sure that the Cornubia and Robert are connected , some of the write ups for the Cornubia say it was built after 1835?. As for the newspaper articles , sorry but I could not enlarge them enough to read . If anything else of interest pops up , please send on the info . Best wishes to you all . Thanks..
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Royal Cornwall Gazette, 25 Sep 1835
PENZANCE - Saile ... the Cornubia, James, for Wales
As for the Newspaper items, simply click on + top left.
There was more than 1 Cornubia.
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LLoyds Register 1835
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UzoSAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:0Ftz6zT302-gFzEJxA5c6C&lr=#v=onepage&q=cornubia&f=false
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1851 census in Paul, Llewellyn is on the next page
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG2Z-H26?lang=en
baptisms of oldest sons
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=6640645
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=6640921
marriage to Mary Harvey
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=1160575
baptism
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=6637346
baptism of brother Arthur, witness to the marriage, shows father as fisherman
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=6632770
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baptism of Julius, register shows Robert as master mariner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCR7-JYT?lang=en
1841 census for family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M775-5RT?lang=en
1881 census for Julius
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-W64K?lang=en
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I think this is the burial of Robert's wife, Mary
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=3372945
1861 census daughters with their grandmother
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78J-35R?lang=en
1871 grandmother with Robert's second wife in Chester
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBNL-C4D?lang=en
1881 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-GPJR?lang=en
parish marriage 1 July 1865 St Hilary, Denbigh by licence
Robert James 53 widower Master Mariner Newlyn, Penzance, Cornwall father Robert James, Master Mariner
Dorothy Bruce Burdon 39 spinster Vale St father John Burdon shopkeeper
witnesses Evan Pierce & Rebecca Burdon
possible burial for Robert
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=3375552
From the probate entry for Robert, he died 9 March 1885 at King's College Hospital, Middlesex.
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CLIP, Masters
Robert James born 1812, Paul
https://www.crewlist.org.uk/people/BT124masters?target=james&SearchType=Exact&initial=robert&dob=&submit=search
Has links to images, i.e.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tvn/
which has him as Master of the Mary Garland from 1857
Link to crew lists/agreements - Mary Garland departing from London, 3 June 1857
Master is Robert James, 45
Also his son I guess, Robert James junior, 21
Starting here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1C-PKM6
Perhaps there are more on there.
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Reply #2 has a Robert James of St. Paul, Newlyn Captain of the Susan, 1839.
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4345304/4345306/14/Capt%2BOR%2Brobert%2BOR%2Bjames?from=search
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3052473/3052475/14/captain%2BOR%2Br%2BOR%2Bjames?from=search
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LLoyd's List, 10 Jan 1837
Boulogne, 8 Jan
"The Cornubia, James, from Cardiff to London, was driven on shore yesterday morning on the cost of Berck - crew saved"
A separate report has the Cornubia calling into Penzance en route for London.
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Lloyd's Register 1847
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zjwSAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=editions:0Ftz6zT302-gFzEJxA5c6C&lr=#v=onepage&q=tamerlane&f=false
Banner of Ulster, 7 Mar 1848
The Tamerlane, James, from Shields for Carthagena, was abandoned, 26 ultimo; the crew, with the exception of four, who were drowned, were brought to Cherbourg.
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4346559/4346562/18/tamerlane%2BAND%2Bjames?from=search
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Liverpool Mercury, 19 Sep 1861
Marriages
Brooking - James - Sep 17, at St. Nicholas's by the Rev. J W Walsh, Mr John Brooking, master mariner of this port, to Mary, eldest daughter of Mr Robert James, master mariner, Newlyn, Penzance.
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Many many thanks to you all for the various info on Robert and his family . I never expected to go this far into there lives . It seems that Robert was a notable Mariner in the day .. makes a change to the fishing occupations of many in the James line from Newlyn. I will look into the ship info carefully as there are many different ones he was in charge of . One thing I am puzzled by is "Why his Son's left to go to Argentina?". It seems a long way to go . Best wishes to you all .
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I think Robert James became master of the Zadkiel after the Mary Garland - around '65/66.
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Thanks.
I had several holidays in Newlyn (Pilchard Cottage?) and thoroughly enjoyed.
There's a wealth of info in the papers re. voyages made - from dashing up to Cardiff to sailing for Valparaiso. At one stage he broke the record for an Atlantic crossing.