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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: MacGrigor on Saturday 19 July 25 07:14 BST (UK)
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Morning all,
I have down two marriages in my records:
William Goddard and Elizabeth Harding née Stockton, married at All Saints, Battle Bridge, 20th of November 1882.
George Dudley and Elizabeth Goddard née Smith, married at the same church, 3rd of October 1881
Could anyone please tell me if there are any addresses listed and, if so, what they are? I’ve been going down to London to photograph surviving houses, churches, workplaces, and so on; so would love to visit anything that’s still standing or find what’s on the site (I have a very useful mapping tool through university that I’d be happy to help any other users with).
Also, I am en route currently to visit the Essex Record Office in Chelmsford — my second such visit after going to Hertford a couple of months ago.
Best wishes,
Adam
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Surely the addresses will be on the marriage certificates?
FamilySearch is showing 9 William Goddards on the 1881 census.
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Address for both couples are 37,North Street
Rosie
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William Goddard & Elizabeth Harding: 37 North Street
same address for the other couple
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Or, do you mean the address of the church?
The original All Saints building was opened in 1838 and for a time was known as All Saints Battlebridge or Battle Bridge. Its location on the corner of All Saints Street and Caledonian Road was redeveloped in 1977.
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Thanks all — sorry: I did mean the addresses of the marrying parties. But thanks for the history Neale1961! I will go and visit the church too.
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Well, I'm not 100% certain that I have the correct North Street, but here, in the correct general area, is a North Street and North Street Mews, Town Plan, overlaid on a modern street map. If this doesn't work for you, it suggests that North Street aligned precisely with the modern Chitty Street and that North Street Mews was the area enclosed by (modern) Chitty Street, Whitfield Street, Howland Street and Charlotte Street. North Street itself seems to have only a few houses so my guess is that no. 37 was in North Street Mews which doesn't appear at FindMyPast in an address search for 1881 (it only appears in 1861).
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.3&lat=51.52146&lon=-0.13724&layers=251&b=osm&o=100
Added: Chitty Street appears in FindMyPast address search in 1891
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Well, I'm not 100% certain that I have the correct North Street
I'm afraid not - that's Fitzrovia, not at all the right area for Battle Bridge. The correct North Street will probably be the one that ran north off Pentonville Road and is now called Northdown Street (London N1)
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18.3&lat=51.53224&lon=-0.12019&layers=251&b=osm&o=100
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Looks like no. 37 is still standing (according to StreetView, and assuming the house numbering hasn't changed).
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Thank you Bookbox. I was so uncertain about this, that I didn’t do any follow up on ‘my’ North Street. Happy to be corrected.
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Looking at Northdown Street
On the 1969 1:1250 map number 37 is shown on the west side of the street and ~ 3 houses south from the junction with Collier Street.
The 1910 Valuation map is based upon a map labelled with NORTH STREET but 'DOWN' has been inserted in a smaller typeface in the space between the two words. The properties are variously referred to as Northdown Street or North Down Street. The no. 37 property is in the same place as defined above.
In the Valuation Survey, no 37 Northdown Street was occupied by someone named Barber on a monthly tenancy, rent £44 per annum (I calculate that as £3. 13s. 4d per month). The property extended over basement, ground, 1st and top floors with two rooms on each level. A fuller description for nos 27-39 is included with no. 29:
G.F. 2 & W.C. Good entrance hall.
B. 2, W.C. W'ho in yard.
Area to front
1st 2, with balcony to front
Top, 2
This matches perfectly with the external appearance of the existing houses on street view.
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8 October 1906: Islington Gazette
RE-NAMING A STREET.
The London County Council forwarded copy of a sealed order for re-naming North-street, Pentonville, as "Northdown-street."
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Brilliant: thanks so much Alan and Bookbox. I can’t wait to visit.