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Thomas tree is sketchy
My grandma Elise Thomas(aka Leslie) as we knew to be her name till of late b: Aug 16 1896 in Morriston Glam her parents were William Thomas and Rachel Williams She also had a brother Tom he was older than her.
Grandma said her mum Rachel passed away when she was two years of age
I don't know much about the Thomas family as for the father William he I believe was born in Morriston as well,
Its believed that he was a business owner, (I don't have anything to back that up)
My Grandma was a head nurse in WW1 and rumoured she met her husband at a hospital when she tripped over his tools
William Thomas remarried a woman who had 2 daughters, and they and my grandma all went into nursing
My grandma Elsie Thomas and Grandfather William Henry Phillips were married and did immigrate to Canada in 1926
Any help would be great,
Thanking you in advance
Leslie Utting aka williesbaby
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Is her christian name ELISE or ELSIE.
SS
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Just bookmarking as looked around with little luck.
Trees seem way off that mention her.
So many birth reg for Thomas girls mmn Williams 1896.
No obvious Marriage Reg found either to William Henry Phillips.
Will leave it to you SS as I am off to bed :)
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Mary Phillips age 29 arrived in Montreal on 3 Oct 1926 from Southampton
There is more info, names an Aunt and Husband already in Country I think
I do not have access to this maybe someone else has???
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I find it very difficult to read but it says mother occupation housewife born England
Transcription has final destination Toronto
Spouse Dom Phillip who is also person in Canada
Person in Old Country (presume that means UK) Mrs D Aunt
Ship name Alaunia
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Welcome to rootschat :)
My grandma Elise Thomas(aka Leslie) as we knew to be her name till of late b: Aug 16 1896 in Morriston Glam her parents were William Thomas and Rachel Williams She also had a brother Tom he was older than her.
My grandma Elsie Thomas and Grandfather William Henry Phillips were married and did immigrate to Canada in 1926
I can see a Wm Phillips leaving Liverpool on the Letitia in August 1926 - his address Penrice? St, Morriston - occupation Fitter :-\
Do you have Elsie's birth certificate ?
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Quote from Rosie99
I can see a Wm Phillips leaving Liverpool on the Letitia in August 1926 - his address Penrice? St, Morriston - occupation Fitter
Believe I can start the ball rolling here. Believe this is the father with 2nd wife.
1911 census--4 Penrice St Morriston, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
William Thomas Head Married Male 52 1859 Collery carpentar Carmarthen Llangathen
Anna Thomas Wife Married Female 50 1861 - Cardigan Clyde
Mary Thomas Daughter Single Female 20 1891 - Glamorgan Morriston
William Jophep Boarder Single Male 29 1882 Tin work blacksmeth Glam Morriston
William & Anna married 6 years
Marriages Jun 1905
Thomas Anna Swansea 11a 1515
THOMAS William Swansea 11a 1515
Same address in 1921 BUT No. 1
THOMAS, MARY ETHEL mmnEVANS
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 893
This was the address William Phillips was at in 1926 --his father in laws.
SS
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This is the other step daughter of William Thomas.
1939-1 Penrice Street, Swansea, Swansea C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales
THOMAS, MARGARET ANN EVANS her dob 5th August 1889 see occupation in 1939
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 765
SS
added, probate record for Anna Thomas 1940 names both daughters, Margaret Ann & Mary Ethel.
Probate record of William Thomas of 1, Prenrice Street, Morriston, died 1st December 1926. To Anna Thomas £246,3s 6p
THOMAS, WILLIAM aged 68
GRO Reference: 1926 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 960
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You're all amazing. I had the address Penrice one time in the 1970s my mom and dad went to Wales mom had a spattering of some information but not really a lot however her paternal side which is Phillips they are so easy to find. All of you that took the time to assist me, you've have been amazing my goodness.
Thank you so much for everything it gives me a little more to dig on now. I'm just responding today, it is July 17th 2025 and I'm in Ontario Canada and it is 8:45 p.m
Kind regards
Leslie
Aka williesbaby.
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Hi, couple of questions if I may. Your opening post gives exact details of the date of birth for Ethel, do you have a copy of her birth certificate as I am struggling to find her or her father William pre 1911. Did/was Ethel brought up by a family member after her mother's death (Rachel must have died 1896-1905).
SS
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Good work SS :)
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Possible 1891 census.--Oakfield Road, Llandilo Talybont, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
William Thomas Head Married Male 32 1859 Carpenter -
Rachel Thomas Wife Married Female 29 1862 - -
Willie* Thomas Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar
BINGO--cannot attach image. joint baptisms on FindMyPast baptism date 20th November 1896
Baptism place--ST DAVID'S. Carmarthenshire
* William Thomas son of William (Carpenter) & Rachel, abode Quay Street dob 8th January 1882
** LESLIE Thomas daughter of " " " " " " dob 6th August 1895
SS
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Cracked it SS, Well Done ;D
Rosie
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Leslie can be found in 1921 as a single women aged 25y 10mths, her occupation Charge Nurse in Workhouse, her pob Carmarthen, Camarthenshire.
SS
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Cracked it SS, Well Done ;D
Rosie
Thanks rosie, think I will move on to another post.
SS
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When Leslie/Elsie was baptised her brother William was baptised at the same time. His date of birth 8th January 1882. He appears in 1939 war register with wife and son. The same dob and a wife Gwendoline (Jones).
This couple married 6th July 1902 Llandeilo Talybont, his father recorded as William Thomas--occupation Carpenter, believe father was also a witness.
William & Gwendoline also appear on 1911 census.
THOMAS, THOMAS HENRY mmn JONES
GRO Reference: 1916 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 1222
1921 census look for
THOMAS, ELIZABETH ANNE mmn JONES (Lizzie Ann in 1921)
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in CARDIGAN Volume 11B Page 3
THOMAS, WILLIAM HUBERT JONES
GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in PONTARDAWE Volume 11A Page 1828
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William Thomas jnr both in 1911 & 1921 records his pob as Tregegar, this comes under the Bedwelty registration district. He was actually born as William Thomas Williams 8th January 1882, mother Rachel Williams --domestic servant, info taken from official gro birth record.
Rachel married William Thomas sq 1882 Bedwelty. This marriage certificate should name their respective father's and occupations.
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1861 census for William Thomas
Piece 4052
Folio 31
Page number 14
William Thomas 49 Head
Margaret Thomas 46 Wife
Thomas Thomas 24 Son
Henry Thomas 19 Son-------------1842 Llandilofawr----mmn Jones
Mary Thomas 12 Daughter
Margaret Thomas 10 Daughter----- 1851 Llandilofawr--- mmn Joens
Rachel Thomas 6 Daughter-------1854 Llandilofawr---- mmn Jones
William Thomas 4 Son --------- 1857 Llanfilogawr---mmn Jones
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1871 census
Piece 5484
Folio 14
Page number 2
William Thomas 60 Head
Margaret Thomas 45 Wife
William Thomas 14 Son
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1881 census for William Thomas with parents.
Piece 5389
Folio 15
Page number 3
William Thomas 72 Head
Margaret Thomas 68 Wife
William Thomas 22 Son
SS
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You have certainly found lots of information there SS ;D.
Hopefully Leslie will pop back in with their comments