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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: Antony1977 on Sunday 13 July 25 15:33 BST (UK)
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Would anyone be able to confirm if the gravestone pictured is of my 4x great grandfather ?
I would only consider myself a basic family history researcher so could do with someone with a better knowledge casting an eye.
My research is on the ancestry screen shot ( my account is titled Antony Deaves if you wish to look)
Thomas Deaves
B:2 May 1797 England
D:Oct 1861 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Married
Sarah Cartwright on 15/12/1817 at St Chads Shrewsbury
B:February 1798 Shrewsbury Shropshire, England
D:1872 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
I have just found the gravestone on a website , the death year is the same as what I have (1861 ) but I have his month of death as Oct ( but I don’t know where I got that from) , whereas the only death cert I can find for a Thomas Deaves has it as 13/12/1861 - notified by Margaret Gough ( daughter according to the gravestone entry)
On the children from the marriage , I have Margaret Deaves ( but no dobs or death date at all) so could be her
I’m assuming Gough was her married name
I have a George Deaves in my tree
B:1833 Shrewsbury, St Mary
D:9 Jan 1870 Shropshire, England
but the gravestone says died 24th May 1873
Gravestone says Margaret Gough died Aug 31st 1864
I would love to confirm if the pictured gravestone is my relative so I can pay my respects and put some flowers down.
I can’t post the gravestone pic
Here’s the link to it
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/233073605/thomas-deaves
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Marriage Sep qtr 1850
Deaves Margaret
Gough Samuel
Shrewsbury RD 18 207
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The GRO death index listed her age as 40 when she died in 1864
GOUGH, MARGARET 40
GRO Ref 1864 Sept Qrter SHREWSBURY Vol 06A Page 443
And there is this marriage to a Samuel Gough (which Rosie posted)
Margaret Deaves
Marriage 15 Sep 1850 Saint Chad, Shrewsbury
Father Thomas Deaves
Spouse Samuel Gough
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It looks good.
Margaret Deaves married Samuel Gough in 1850.
England Select Marriages 15th September 1850 St Chad, Shrewsbury
Margaret Deaves, father Thomas Deaves
Samuel Gough
Baptism St Alkmunds, Shrewsbury
13th March 1825 - birth 20th Feb 1825
Margaret Deaves - parents Thomas and Sarah
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Marriage Sep qtr 1850
Deaves Margaret
Gough Samuel
Shrewsbury RD 18 207
Thank you very much
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It looks good.
Margaret Deaves married Samuel Gough in 1850.
England Select Marriages 15th September 1850 St Chad, Shrewsbury
Margaret Deaves, father Thomas Deaves
Samuel Gough
Baptism St Alkmunds, Shrewsbury
13th March 1825 - birth 20th Feb 1825
Margaret Deaves - parents Thomas and Sarah
Thanks for the help
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The GRO death index listed her age as 40 when she died in 1864
GOUGH, MARGARET 40
GRO Ref 1864 Sept Qrter SHREWSBURY Vol 06A Page 443
And there is this marriage to a Samuel Gough (which Rosie posted)
Margaret Deaves
Marriage 15 Sep 1850 Saint Chad, Shrewsbury
Father Thomas Deaves
Spouse Samuel Gough
Brilliant thanks
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Antony,
The GRO death index for the George Deaves who died on 9 January 1870 has his age as 58; whereas the indexed age shown for the George Deaves who died on 24 May 1873 is 39.
This makes the younger George a better fit for the headstone; and thus most likely the son of Thomas & Sarah and a brother to Margaret.
However, the headstone does throw up a considerable mystery: which is that it implies that Sarah is not also interred in the grave - so why not? and where then was she buried in 1872?
With regard to the presence of the headstone, that it exists is confirmation that the burial site is what is known as a 'Purchased Grave'; and as it is located in Shrewsbury General Cemetery this means that it has its own pedigree chart.
As I found to my considerable benefit several years ago, during my quest to find my grandmother's last resting place, microfiche copies of the comprehensive historic burial records for the general cemetery are held at Shropshire Archives. The wonderful detail contained within these records includes: the name of the purchaser of the exclusive rights of burial associated with the grave; when it was purchased; how many interments were to be permitted along with the individual burial entries for those interred - revealing their contemporary personal details.
With regard to my grandmother, I was able to visit the archives, harvest the details in the fiche and then jump onto a waiting bus which took me straight to the cemetery for my first sight of a very unexpected headstone.
If a personal visit is not possible, the in-house archivists offer an excellent (and not too-expensive) search service which I have used to great effect. Additionally they would be able to help locate, and perhaps make sense of, where Sarah is buried.
Willyam
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Thank you
I’ve emailed the cemetery to find out if George and Hannah are buried below as well or if the names are just in memoriam and the remains are elsewhere
I will do the enquires you mention , that would be very interesting
Thank you
Antony Deaves