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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: HannahM on Wednesday 09 July 25 10:03 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am trying to find information on relatives, headstones or further dates of a great grandparent who immigrated from Italy to New Zealand.
I have a family member heading too Rubbio, Italy in a few weeks with hopes too connect with distant relatives.
What we know so far:
Marco Zampese, married Giovanna (nee ??). Died New Zealand
Children:
Angelo Zampese b. 1927, d. 2003
Antonio Zampese, b.1935, d. 1975
Caterina Marshall (nee Zampese),
Maria Piner (nee Zampese).
We are needing information on Marco & his wife if you have anything available that may assist.
Thanks!!!
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Have you got their Italian civil data yet?:
Marco’s 1900 BC: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua17366666/wkk1QnV (#131)
His 1923 Marriage to Giovanna Vivian: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua17361504/LeB2enB (#20)
Giovanna’s 1903 BC: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua17367311/LpBelWM (#164)
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Hi,
Thank you so much for attaching some links (shame we can't read Italian).
We have zero documents of theirs from Italy. If you have access to these or can provide some assistance it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Hi,
Thank you so much for attaching some links (shame we can't read Italian).
We have zero documents of theirs from Italy. If you have access to these or can provide some assistance it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Well, you've got 3 Italian documents now
And roughly they contain:
Marco’s father Angelo was 38 when he was born on the 11th (“undici”) of Sep 1900. His mother was Catterina Brunello. The family resided in Conco.
Giovanna Vivian was born on 26 Oct 1903 to Abramo Vivian (49y, residence: Bassano) and Maria Bonato.
Marco and Giovanna were married on 17 Feb 1923 in Conco. Both were living in Conco et the time of their marriage.
All these individuals seemed to have been "villicos" i.e something like peasants/peasant villagers.
Tip:
I used Google Translate to learn to understand the basics of these documents. Give it a try yourself, it gets easier the more you do it.
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New Zealand newspapers
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?phrase=2&snippet=true&query=marco+zampese
Click on snippet to view article.
I've only searched for Marco.
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Thank you very much.
Do you know of any websites where we can find Marco or Giovanna's cemetery/headstones; or links too their other descendants?
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Marco and family grave:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/272527644/marco-zampese
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You can check/confirm years of birth, marriage, death etc here
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search
But they don't give a great deal of detail. Note access is restricted by period since event.
Check the newspapers for the children and burials for Marco/Giovanna (1970 and 1974). They mention names.
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Apologies, I meant their parents headstones in Italy & any siblings.
Hoping they are buried in Conco or Rubbio?
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Are you familiar with FamilySearch - it's free but you have to register.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/united-kingdom/
I spotted a Marco Zampese arriving NZ 1928 via Sydney Oz, age 28 - yet to spot a Giovanna.
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https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=11553644&S=8&N=15&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=11553644&T=P&S=8
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A tree for the Vivian family:
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/G7X4-3WP
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FYI
Angelo Zampese and Catterina Brunello had (at least) 2 Marco’s before yours was born:
Marco 1887-1892: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68LC-8ZS2?lang=en
Marco 1895-1896: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68LG-S69H?lang=en
(birth: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGD7-R425?lang=en)
Their 1885 marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:C2HD-KZN2?lang=en
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BTW
If you are hopeful to find (older) graves in Italy, there is a fair chance that they won't exist anymore ...
An interesting article: https://lisarickey.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/the-italian-cemetery-question/