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Family History Documents and Artefacts => Graveyards and Gravestones => Topic started by: RobinOz on Monday 07 July 25 21:48 BST (UK)

Title: Gravestone Information
Post by: RobinOz on Monday 07 July 25 21:48 BST (UK)
I have a photograph of a gravestone for a family plot, there are several members buried their.
Unfortunately it is difficult to make out some engraving due to moss and debris on the stone.
I have the details of where the stone is and family buried there.(Gorton Cemetery), is there any way i can get someone to visit the stone and decipher the engraving for me?
I am in Australia so i cannot do it myself. Any suggestions on how to get this done would be appreciated.
Thank you
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 09 July 25 09:04 BST (UK)
Where is Gorton? There's no way to tell from your post even what country.
Does the cemetery have a listing on Find A Grave? if so you can request a photo.
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 09 July 25 11:08 BST (UK)
Did you download the photo from here  :-\
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2141112/gorton-cemetery

It may be useful if you post a photo on here in case we can help transcribe the memorial.  If it means someone will have to remove moss etc to read it then maybe permission would have to be granted as it is not always the case that we can just randomly remove moss etc from these memorials.
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: Heirloom1690 on Wednesday 09 July 25 18:46 BST (UK)
Hi all

Gorton is a district or area in Manchester Lancashire
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: RobinOz on Thursday 10 July 25 18:13 BST (UK)
I have the grave details as follows from the Manchester Burial Records
Gorton Cemetery
Grave CNon Conformist Grave 241 Position 1
John Charles Burgess born 1847 died 1907.
Other people listed in the grave are:
Emily Burgess Position 2
Elsie Donnelly Position 3
Elizabeth Ann Burgess Position 4
Elizabeth Burgess Position 5

Photograph attached
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: RobinOz on Sunday 13 July 25 18:24 BST (UK)
After spending several hours using the GRO, Manchester burial records and a bit of luck i have found all 5 people listed for the grave.
Thank you for your contributions.
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: dobfarm on Sunday 03 August 25 17:31 BST (UK)
(Cleaned as requested epitaph inscription headstone Gorton Cemetery Manchester)


John Charles
The beloved husband of
Elizabeth A Burgess
Who died Feb 20 1907
Aged 59 years
Also Elizabeth Ann
Beloved wife of the above
Who died (April) APL. 16. 1936 aged 87 years
                           “Reunited”
Also Emily daughter of the above
Who died Oct 21. 1915
Aged 30 years.
Also Elizabeth (Lilly)
Daughter of the above
Who died April. 26. 1949
Aged 72 years

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As the year dates don't follow in a descending order  ??? its likely the headstone was made at a later date

Regards Dave  :)
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: RobinOz on Sunday 03 August 25 18:56 BST (UK)
After some research of the Gorton Cemetery records it seems there is an Elsie Burgess who is the daughter of Edith Burgess also buried in this plot.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: dobfarm on Sunday 03 August 25 19:16 BST (UK)
Hello Robin

Its quiet possible there are other deceased bodies buried in that grave before or after the dates on the headstone as I said that headstone seems to have been engraved at a later date or as the headstone was filled up with inscriptions, it would mean a larger headstone to be needed to be made and maybe cost wise was not affordable! so they just buried the other deceased without an inscription - ?
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: RobinOz on Sunday 03 August 25 19:19 BST (UK)
thank you dobfarm, i suppose it will remain a mystery as to when the headstone was erected.
Title: Re: Gravestone Information
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 04 August 25 08:56 BST (UK)
Well going by the inscription up to the word 'reunited' maybe was the original time the headstone was erected about pre 1936 and daughters added as an after thought! especially the 1915 entry maybe placed as well in 1949 to put both sisters on the inscription?, then run out of room on the stone for Elsie or Edith inscriptions but without researching stonemason records it will will remain a mystery unfortunately. The Gorton cemetery grave records of dates of burials are the more accurate anyway - so your research was not in vain.

Dave  :)