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Title: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: windy_miller on Monday 07 July 25 18:32 BST (UK)
Good afternoon fellow Rooters,

I have just located a possible new Suffolk miller (occupation)?  Listed in an insurance policy dated 1749 is a John Dearson Miller, he lived a Horringheath (Horsecroft), and was described as a miller.

I have located a ref to his death in 1767, and a further ref to a John Deerson Miller, and a final reference to a rape case (much later but same parish) to a John Deerson Meller.

However, I have found very little that confirms his occupation.  Can any one help?

Many thanks in advance,
Windy :)
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hepburn on Monday 07 July 25 18:55 BST (UK)
Do I have the right family..John Miller married Ann Clemence 1752 St Peter Stowmarket

John Dearson Miller baptism 1753 in Horringer..Father John,Mother Ann?
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: windy_miller on Monday 07 July 25 19:58 BST (UK)
Hi Hepburn,

Interesting.

My man was certainly old enough to take out an insurance policy in 1749, so maybe he is the John Miller (father), and their son was first born and named the same as his father?  The rape case was in the early 1800s and must have been the John Dearson Mill of 1753?

Confused or what!
 
Windy
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hepburn on Monday 07 July 25 19:59 BST (UK)
Yes??? :)
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hepburn on Monday 07 July 25 20:04 BST (UK)
 John Dearson Miller.burial 1767 in Horringer?  :(
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hepburn on Monday 07 July 25 20:07 BST (UK)
John Dearson Meller burial 1839 Horringer
John Dearson Meller burial 1842 Horringer.... An awful lot of  john Dearson 's knocking about!
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: windy_miller on Monday 07 July 25 20:15 BST (UK)
This is what I was worried about, but I have found a ref in Bury & Suffolk Herald to a John Dearson in Horsecroft, being a miller in September 1831.

The plot thickens.  So we currently have at least 3 dead Dearson Millers in about 30 years?
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 06:18 BST (UK)
Windy,
Good to hear from you

FindMyPast baptism (transcript only)
Susan, bap 13 Feb 1777, St Mary Bury St Edmunds, parents John Dawson** and Mary Meller

** - cannot check 2nd given name against original

Bury and Norwich Post, 13 May 1840


Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 06:23 BST (UK)
FindMyPast baptism (transcript only)
Mary, born 19 Oct, bap 1 Nov 1781, place St Leonard, Horringer, parents John Dearson and Mary Meller
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 06:33 BST (UK)
FindMyPast Marriage Licence (Archdeaconry of Sudbury)
Jn Dearson Meller, of St Mary, Bury St Edmunds, s.m. & Mary Meller of same, s.w. at same. 12 May 1775
Married next day 13th May at St Mary.
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 06:34 BST (UK)
Re. the 1805 rape case the accused was found Not Guilty.
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 06:45 BST (UK)
Norfolk Chronicle, 10 Jan 1818
This was daughter Sarah's marriage. Father died between this marriage and daughter Susan's death 1840.
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 07:26 BST (UK)
John Dearson Meller was associated with the Hundred of Thingoe Association for "the pursuit of felons". Appears under "Horsingsfield" or "Horsecroft/s".

Is "Horsecroft/s" a place? I've seen a "Horsecroft/s Farm" mentioned in 18th Century papers but cannot spot it as a place. Was John Dearson Meller at Horsecroft/s Farm"?

Checked GRO death registrations and there is a death of -
John Dea Miller, June Qtr 1839, age 85 (born c.1754), District Thingoe, 13 362
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 07:53 BST (UK)
Ipswich Journal, 22 Jun 1839
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 08 July 25 08:10 BST (UK)
FindMyPast Marriage (transcript only)
John Miller & Sara Derson, year 1719, place St James Bury St Edmunds

Unfortunately, I am only picking up transcripts. Sometimes the originals of these pre 1811/12 registers carry that extra snippet eg occupation.
Title: Re: John Dearson Miller (aka John Deerson Meller), Horringheath, nr. BStE, 1749
Post by: windy_miller on Tuesday 08 July 25 10:09 BST (UK)
Blimey!  So much interesting information!

I think the 1719 couple are my chaps parents as that would make him 30 years old at the time of the Policy.

Horsecroft was described as a "Hamlet" sitting near Horringheath in the 1749 policy.  Horringheath is now called Horringer (I believe) and is just SW of Bury St. Edmunds.

It is frustrating when transcribed info does not contain all the original information, but I suppose it down to time.  May be this will improve with AI? :)