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Title: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: nobrickwalls on Thursday 03 July 25 22:37 BST (UK)
I'm hoping to learn more about Joice Jolliffe, the wife of Charles Packer, who were married 04 July 1731, in Horfield, Gloucester.  Any details from her marriage or death that might identify her parents or birthplace would be appreciated.

Notes:
1. There are some who allege her full name was Margaret Joyce Jolliffe (or Jollief).
2. Some assert she died in 1756, but I've seen no solid evidence.

Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 04 July 25 03:12 BST (UK)
A possibility - there is a Joyce baptised on 1 June 1710 at St Thomas, Bristol, daughter of John JOLLIFE. And, another on 5 May 1712. The first was buried 24 March 1711.
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: nobrickwalls on Friday 04 July 25 04:24 BST (UK)
Yes, that's definitely possible. Can I ask where you're seeing these records? I'm unable to find them on FindMyPast or Family Search. Thank you.
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 04 July 25 04:41 BST (UK)
The original parish records are on Ancestry.

You may have already seen, but in case you haven't seen the original images, when I was looking earlier, I noticed that when a child of Charles PACKER was baptised in Bristol, it says that he was a butcher.

Modified to add:
Yes, just checked - 12 Jan 1734 Elizabeth, dau of Charles PACKER, butcher at St Thomas, Bristol.
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 04 July 25 04:50 BST (UK)
A John JOLLIFF married Mary WAKELEY 1 Sept 1702 at St Mary, Redcliffe, Bristol by banns. (Image on Ancestry).
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 04 July 25 04:53 BST (UK)
A John JOLIFF, butcher on the Poll Books for St Thomas, Bristol in 1721.
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: nobrickwalls on Friday 04 July 25 05:03 BST (UK)
Thank you for all of this. So yes I see that 1702 marriage of John Jolliffe to Mary Wakeley, and the baptism of Elizabeth Packer in 1734. But for some reason I'm unable to find those JOLLIFFE baptisms in 1710 and 1711 on Ancestry (nor any of the other sites I use). Nor do I see the marriage banns. Very strange.

Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: nobrickwalls on Friday 04 July 25 05:09 BST (UK)
I found those 2 baptism records for Joice Jollife! I'll keep looking for the other records. Thank you!
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 04 July 25 05:11 BST (UK)
If you have access to Ancestry - here is the image for the marriage in 1702:
https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/61666/records/1115811

The 1710 baptism:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tuj/

The 1712 baptism:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tuk/

The 1711 burial:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tul/
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: nobrickwalls on Friday 04 July 25 05:42 BST (UK)
Terrific, thanks. I was able to make that first link work by removing the ".au" in the URL, as I'm accessing these from the US and my subscription has different credentials. If it's not too much trouble are you able to send those other records in the same format as the first as opposed to the "rootschat ..." URL's.

Again, thank you!
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 04 July 25 05:46 BST (UK)
ah, ok, Sorry about that, hope you can make these work:

https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/61666/images/engl0082d_p-st-t-r-1-c_m_00055?rc=&queryId=19da82ca-b487-4a44-8e0f-568f4f601553&usePUB=true&_phsrc=cWR18&_phstart=successSource&pId=1623974

https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/61666/images/engl0082d_p-st-t-r-1-c_m_00059?rc=&queryId=19da82ca-b487-4a44-8e0f-568f4f601553&usePUB=true&_phsrc=cWR18&_phstart=successSource&pId=1624081

https://www.ancestry.com.au/imageviewer/collections/61666/images/engl0082d_p-st-t-r-1-c_m_00148?rc=&queryId=9638a2bc-7fd0-467f-a5e8-16dc2c576bea&usePUB=true&_phsrc=cWR21&_phstart=successSource&pId=1626932
Title: Re: Joice Jolliffe (or Jollief), wife of Charles Packer, m. 04 July 1731, Horfield
Post by: nobrickwalls on Friday 04 July 25 05:52 BST (UK)
Yes, thank you!