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Need help with finding the 'correct' joseph Brown father of my 3rd great grandmother Elizabeth Brown, born 1840 in Cramlington to Catherine Mather and a Joseph Brown. They were not married, and in 1841 census living with Catherine's parents George and Elizabeth Mather. Birth certificate says Joseph was an agricultural labourer, marriage cert says husbandsman. Would also like to find a transcript of Elizabeth's marriage to Cuthbert Ritson at All Saints Newcastle May 24th 1858. I've tried the bishops transcripts and free reg, durhamm recs online, ancestry and find my past so actual copy of the image of the parish record. If anyone related to Joseph Brown or Elizabeth please get in touch!
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The 1841 for Northumberland has several entries for the name Joseph Brown - have you considered DNA?
You can buy a copy of the 1858 marriage cert - here’s the reference & the link to the GRO website
June qtr 1858 Newcastle on Tyne Volume 10b Page 21
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Elizabeths bapt has Joseph of Bedlington.
1871 Census has a Joseph Brown, Husbandman, born c 1817 NorthlandBedlington (as on Anc.)
He is a Cousin to a Thomas Brown and looks like unmarried to me.
Cant track him down conclusively before that though.
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Hi
I already have Elizabeth's marriage certificate and all the baptisms for Joseph's born in neighbouring parishes adjacent to Morpeth, Bothal, Bedlington etc. The Baptism record for Elizabeth says that the father is 'of Bedlington'. The marriage certificate has a witness that appears to be a John Brown so this is either a father or brother. so may narrow things down slightly. The 1871 census has a Joseph living with his cousin Thomas so may be another avenue to explore. DNA is also a good option, may be the only one!
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Need help with finding the 'correct' joseph Brown father of my 3rd great grandmother Elizabeth Brown, born 1840 in Cramlington to Catherine Mather and a Joseph Brown. They were not married, and in 1841 census living with Catherine's parents George and Elizabeth Mather.
1841 census only has George Mather 50 -ag lab / George Mather 20 Coal Miner / Cathrine Mather 25/ Elizabeth Brown 1 - All born in County.
Where do you have Joseph :-\
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Baptism record says Joseph is Husbandsman, birth cert says Agricultural labourer, marriage cert for Eliz in 1858 says Husbandsman. Think 1871 census more likely to be him. I've also found that a joseph Brown from Bedlington was in the Merchant Navy in 1845 and says born 1814, no other details
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Hi,
I wonder if this could be the right Joseph in 1841?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-4CP?lang=en
He is an Ag Lab.
If searching Ancestry Bedlington seems to be in Durham ::)
He will be hard to be sure of because "of Bedlington" on the baptism only means that he was living there at the time, not that he was born there.
Regards,
Daisy
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Hi
Yes thankyou I have this, problem is I have nothing else to go on only occupation. The marriage certificate for his daughter Elizabeth, mentions a John Brown witness. I need to find out who he is. I need a copy of the original baptism image but only the archives will have it.
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Do you mean Elizabeth's baptism?
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Elizabeth's baptism online
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tuh/
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Sorry I meant Joseph and Cuthbert Ritson's marriage image from the parish/church records 24th May 1858 at All Saints, Newcastle
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If Joseph & Catherine were not married - what marriage certificate are you referring to in your opening post when you say "marriage cert says husbandman"
Is it Elizabeth's 1858 marriage cert? If so - why do you need a transcript?