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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: HughC on Saturday 28 June 25 16:44 BST (UK)
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The marriage of Dr Robert Delafosse Shield and Ann Brake Walden was registered in St Germans district in the 4th quarter of 1843. She had a daughter born and baptized in 1844 in Rochester, Kent, which is where Robert's parents were apparently living at the time.
After giving birth to a son at Clun, Shropshire (where Robert was a GP) in 1846 she died there on 8 Dec. 1847 and was buried there on the 11th, her age given as 32.
If that age is correct, we can expect her to have been born in 1815. There were several named Ann Walden born or baptized about that time, but none with the middle name Brake. I'm assuming it was a second forename and not part of her surname. And none of them was anywhere near St Germans or Saltash. I don't know why Robert would have been there in 1843, unless specifically for his wedding, something that usually takes place near the bride's home.
Can anyone help me find out who her parents were and perhaps a more precise date of birth (or baptism) ?
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Is there a fathers name on the marriage cert?
Have you found her on the 1841 census? Does it show her as born in county?
Have you checked Family Search?
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Have you looked for a Brake/Walden marriage? She may have been born illegitimate
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Thank you for your swift response, Carole.
I confess I have not seen the marriage certificate. I have over a thousand relatives in my tree: it would break the bank to obtain certificates for every birth, marriage, and death (and she's not one of my closer relatives).
I failed to find her in the 1841 census.
I have certainly tried FamilySearch. I did look for a possible Brake/Walden marrriage after civil registration began, but not (yet) in earlier years.
I think there would have been newspaper announcements of her marriage and death,
but I don't currently have a subscription to the British Library newspaper archive.
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Info only re * Brake Walden's-possible relatives.
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Deaths Sep 1839
WALDEN, DAVID BRAKE 32
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in CHARD Volume 10 Page 226
Marriages Dec 1841
WALDEN Grace Brake Bristol 11 747
Marriages Dec 1843
Walden Ann Brake St Germans 9 117
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1841 marriage for Grace shows father as Job Walden occ carpenter - Grace married Alfred Brake!! 1851 shows him as Albion but Grace was b 1815 Somerset
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Job Walden married Thomasin Brake 8th August 1811, Stocklynch Magdelene, Somerset.
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1841 shows Job was a carpenter - aged 50 - wife Tamzin 45. Living in Somerset - all born there
Children
Eunice 20
Charles 15
Tamzin 14
George 8
Piece 972 book 1 folio 5 page 3
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That looks promising, though if Thomasin and Tamzin are the same person she must have been very young when she married.
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Re the 1871 details I posted earlier. Daughter Eunice died in 1841 & Tamzen in 1848
The only way to link Ann is to buy the 1843 marriage cert & check fathers name. Great pity the GRO haven't extended the £3 Digital copy offer to include marriage certs
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I agree M/C is needed to confirm.
Bapts St Thomas, Thurlbear, Somerset
ELIZA 1 Mar 1824
ANIS****/ELIZABETH/CHARLES 13 Jun 1826 (job lot ages not shown)
THOMASIN 29 Jul 1827
MARY 28 Feb 1830
CAROLINI 1 May 1831 buried as Caroline 29 Feb 1832 age 1
GEORGE 2 Dec 1832
Now these bapts mostly have Job as a Yeoman.
But 1841 Census he is a Carpenter.??
Could ANIS bapt 1826 be Ann?
DAVID BRAKE Walden married Elizabeth CHISLETT 02 May 1835 Seavington St Mary
Witnesses no help
Hes buried there also 29 Jul 1839 age 27 (c 1812)
GRO Death Regs has Eunice as 21 and Tamzin (died 1849) as 22 and Mother Tamzen as 57 so c 1791 which would fit with 1811 Marriage.
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Thanks for that -- and to the others who have responded.
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Just added a little more re deaths :)
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TAMESIN Brake bapt 09 Jan 1791 St Mary Magdalen, Stocklinch Magdalen
Parents DAVID/GRACE
David likely buried 27 Apr 1814 age 74 and Grace 21 Nov 1823 age 82
Cant see Marriage in Somerset on FreeREG for them
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FreeREG has bapts to David/Grace 1783-1791
I can only see 1 Marriage to Grace COX but Yetminster, Dorset, England 1769
They bapt a Mary 21 Sep 1773 Batcombe
+ on F/S Bapt 8 October 1775 Yetminster, Dorset, DAVID Bratby to David/Grace
Possible as David born c 1740 and Grace c 1741
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baptism for David born 1812
9 Aug 1812 Joanna Southcott Chapel, Teddington, Middlesex
David Brooke Walden son of Job & Thomasine of Stocklynch Magdalene, Somerset, dob noted as 14 July.
https://atom.aim25.com/index.php/southcott-joanna-1750-1814
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Hereford Times 22 December 1847
December 8th of Consumption, Ann, the wife of Robert D Shield Esq., surgeon of Clun Salop.
ADDED also in the 18th December edition
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Thank you both.