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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Offaly (Kings) => Topic started by: Simon1a9 on Thursday 26 June 25 21:46 BST (UK)
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I have three Protestant ancestors who died in the townland of Barnagrotty in the in Civil Parish of Borrisnafarney, I would have expected them to have been buried in Borrisnafarney Church of Ireland Church, but the graveyard list does not have them buried there: https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/borrisnafarney-church-ireland/bsfy
They are:
Adam Cooke B:abt 1817 D:26 Jan 1872 Barnagrotty, King's County
George Pattison B:Abt 1784 D:16 May 1873 Barnagrotty, King's County
Elizabeth (Bessie) Matilda Pattison B:abt 1819 D:3 Apr 1897 Barnagrotty, King's County
The families were not poor, so I’d expect marked graves. It would be wonderful to find them. Can you help me ?
Edit: Just to clarify - I have copies of all the death registers - it's the graves I'm looking for
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Not sure if this helps but Irish Genealogy.ie site has this ??? ???
Name: Adam Cooke
Date of Death: 1872
Group Registration ID: N/R
SR District/Reg Area: Roscrea
Deceased Age at Death: 55 (Edit:Estimated DoB 1817)
Returns Year: 1872
Returns Quarter: 1
Returns Volume No: 3
Returns Page No: 553
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=ea0ad8543e-609534
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and this
Name: George Pattison
Date of Death: 1873
Group Registration ID: 7465081
SR District/Reg Area: Roscrea
Deceased Age at Death: 89 (Edit:Estimated DoB 1784)
Returns Year: 1873
Returns Quarter: 2
Returns Volume No: 8
Returns Page No: 497
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=ea0ad8543e-446216
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=0c9e5f72a2-6819721
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Can't find anything on Elizabeth (Bessie) Matilda Pattison B:abt 1819 D:3 Apr 1897 Barnagrotty, King's County Sorry :( :(
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Not sure if this helps but Irish Genealogy.ie site has this ??? ???
Name: Adam Cooke
Date of Death: 1872
Group Registration ID: N/R
SR District/Reg Area: Roscrea
Deceased Age at Death: 55 (Edit:Estimated DoB 1817)
Returns Year: 1872
Returns Quarter: 1
Returns Volume No: 3
Returns Page No: 553
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=ea0ad8543e-609534
You chose the wrong one.
The one with the Group Registration ID: 7322134
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=0c9e5f72a2-6964571
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020746/7278446.pdf
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I have three Protestant ancestors who died in the townland of Barnagrotty in the in Civil Parish of Borrisnafarney, I would have expected them to have been buried in Borrisnafarney Church of Ireland Church, but the graveyard list does not have them buried there: https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/borrisnafarney-church-ireland/bsfy
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The families were not poor, so I’d expect marked graves. It would be wonderful to find them. Can you help me ?
If there was no gravestone or the stone is illegible it probably won't appear on that site. Not all families bothered to erect a gravestone so it wasn't always a matter of money.
You said the family were Protestant- what denomination? were they actually Church of Ireland?
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I have three Protestant ancestors who died in the townland of Barnagrotty in the in Civil Parish of Borrisnafarney, I would have expected them to have been buried in Borrisnafarney Church of Ireland Church, but the graveyard list does not have them buried there: https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/borrisnafarney-church-ireland/bsfy
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The families were not poor, so I’d expect marked graves. It would be wonderful to find them. Can you help me ?
If there was no gravestone or the stone is illegible it probably won't appear on that site. Not all families bothered to erect a gravestone so it wasn't always a matter of money.
You said the family were Protestant- what denomination? were they actually Church of Ireland?
I believe they were Church of Ireland. Certainly, Adam and Bessie were married in a CoI church (Geashill). I have all their death certificates - it's just frustrating not to be able to find a gravestone, particularly as they seem to have been a relatively prominent family. Thanks for your ideas though.
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Sorry I thought Elizabeth's surname was Pattison ??? ???
Another Irish Genealogy.ie site find ;D
Name: Elizabeth Cooke
Date of Death: 1897
Group Registration ID: 4186676
SR District/Reg Area: Roscrea
Deceased Age at Death: 78 (Edit Estimated DoB 1819)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=0c9e5f72a2-4255162
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=0c9e5f72a2-4255162
Daughter Eliza M Cooke was the informant.
1901 census
House 6 in Barnagrotty (Cullenwaine, King's Co.).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Cullenwaine/Barnagrotty/1467526/
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Since death certificates don't list place of burial you need to look at newspapers (death notice, in memorium notice) or death letters.
Kings County Chronicle, 7 Feb.1872: On 26th ult., his residence, Barnagrotty, Moneygall, King’s County, after a long and painful illness, borne with Christian fortitude, Adam Cooke, Esq., aged 55 years, to the inexpressible grief of his bereaved family and friends.
Evening Irish Times, 5 Apr.1897: ... at Barangrotty, Bessie M. Cooke, relict of the late Adam Cooke ...
Can't see if place of burial mentioned.
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I have three Protestant ancestors who died in the townland of Barnagrotty in the in Civil Parish of Borrisnafarney, I would have expected them to have been buried in Borrisnafarney Church of Ireland Church, but the graveyard list does not have them buried there: https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/borrisnafarney-church-ireland/bsfy
They are:
Adam Cooke B:abt 1817 D:26 Jan 1872 Barnagrotty, King's County
George Pattison B:Abt 1784 D:16 May 1873 Barnagrotty, King's County
Elizabeth (Bessie) Matilda Pattison B:abt 1819 D:3 Apr 1897 Barnagrotty, King's County
The families were not poor, so I’d expect marked graves. It would be wonderful to find them. Can you help me ?
Edit: Just to clarify - I have copies of all the death registers - it's the graves I'm looking for
I found Annameadle graveyard was nearby - but no sign of the graves:
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/photos/tombstones/1headstones/annameadle.html