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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Resources & Offers => Topic started by: Nova67 on Wednesday 25 June 25 07:04 BST (UK)
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I was thinking of applying for some death certificates from Tasmania. Tasmania does not have an online BDM database. The Tasmanian Names Index is the substitute at the present time or death notices in newspapers.
The fees are very expensive $AUD57.97 for a Standard certificate increasing to $59.21 from 1 July 2025.
The other issue is that they say that you have to provide your own personal information to prevent fraud. It does say that if the death is more than 25 years ago anyone can apply, but they still want to know what your relationship to the deceased person is. The certificates I wanted are from 1924 and 1934.
The sort of documents that want to prove you, the applicants, identity is the type of information from three different categories that you would provide for a police check e.g birth certificate, drivers license, Medicare card.
I ticked not applicable but it still insisted on agreeing with this to proceed.
https://www.justice.tas.gov.au/bdm/apply-online-your-checklist
What are they doing with the information collated? No other state does this.
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Including attachment re privacy.
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Have you tried ticking “I agree” and proceeding further?
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Yes, and you need to upload your documents.
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Apart from the problems with the website order, the information you need might be available from another source.
For the deaths of interest to you, 1924 and 1934, where were these deaths....what part of Tasmania?
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Hobart. I really just want to know if there is any variance with the mother’s surnames as Graham Jaunay’s site says that parents names may be included after 1914. One of the siblings has the mother with a different surname per her QLD death certificate. The only recording of the mother’s surname is upon her marriage.
I am concerned with the ethics of uploading multiple personal documents. I wanted to know what others thought. Also, if anyone has ordered online from Tasmania.
It does look as though the Northern Territory may require some personal identification. Not to the degree of Tasmania. I have ordered historical BDM certificates through every state in the past, but not the Territories.
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Parents names will only be included for children and unmarried adults.
I see death of James MOODY, 1924.
What death are you interested in for 1934?
"One of the siblings has the mother with a different surname per her QLD death certificate"
What name do you see?
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Wivenhoe, are you psychic?
Three of the siblings who died after 1914:
James Moody died 18 Feb 1924 at 13 Harrington Street, Hobart, Tasmania is one of the certificates I was after.
Richard Moody died 28 Jul 1934 at 74 King Street, Sandy Bay - no birth or baptism found and probably no death registration either. There is a death notice on Trove. Not on the list of those found in the Queensborough Cemetery exhumations. I find it so sad.
Elizabeth Hunter (previously Moody) died 22 Jun 1916 in Benevolent Asylum Dunwich QLD. Parents listed as James Moody, Farmer, and Ann Murray. Had a terrible life.
I know that their mother is meant to be Ann Barnes. I do not agree with the parents people have found for her.
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We tried to get my great grandfather’s death certificate, died 1942, and in the end gave up as the cost and requirements seemed outlandish. We had a photo of his grave so knew the date of death. Some certificates are on Family Search, but I think they were only births.
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Hi Nanna
I am outraged by it. I have to provide such information for working with children so I am familiar with it. I always run into problems as I am a non-driver. The proof of age then had to be uploaded. Then they didn't like the numbers on my birth registration and it was saying you need to upload it and get a justice of the peace to witness it. No way, Jose.
I wasn't comfortable with any of it and couldn't work out why they would need it the certificates required were over 25 years old.
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Nova a cousin finished up ringing them to ask why it was so expensive and the need for all the information. The reply was along the lines of, we are not a big state like others so we can’t afford to digitise everything like them. He didn’t get a real answer on the security though.
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A lot of people with Tasmanian Ancestry would be interested if they offered a more modest price. They probably do not have the staff to handle it. I have written to them about it. I did read somewhere that they were working on a database.
I am on the mainland.
The Tasmanian Names Index is fabulous and I have always found the librarians/archivists will get back to me with great information. Not that I have bombarded them. They are really helpful.
Swings and roundabouts...
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" know that their mother is meant to be Ann Barnes."
You know that the woman who married James Moody, 1871, is really Ann Barnes?.
How have you determined this?
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Too many James Moody's.
The first James Moody to Tasmania was James Moody who married Ann Barnes in 1834.
James Moody (1836 - 1924) is their eldest child.
The first James Moody was a convict.
Don't worry.
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I have had a reply from Tas BDM within 24 hours. I will post about this later as I am on my phone and waiting to start work.
If you would still like to apply for the certificate Nanna52, I can forward you the email. Just PM me.
Basically, it said that you do not have to provide the documents if it is beyond 25 years I will have to see if her method works, or there is still an indication that you do.
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I do not know what I was doing differently, but in case it helps someone else:
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This should avoid you having to provide you own documents as identification. A big thank you to Ann O at the Department of Justice Tasmania BDM for prompt email help.
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Thanks Nova. I will save up my cents and apply for my great grandfather’s death certificate soon. It will be interesting to see what is on it as he was estranged from the family when he died.
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I was also able to confirm that there was a death certificate for Richard for 1934. I had seen another family member who died later than that so I assumed it did not exist. Further to this:
"Most death records from 1930 onwards are still only held by Births, Deaths and Marriages, as they are not yet in a digital format that can be loaded into the Names Index. Digitisation work is underway that will see historical records gradually being added to the Names Index, so they can be accessed more easily in the future".
Good luck, Nanna :)
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I received both certificates within 7- 9 days. As Wivenhoe suggested, there is quite limited information on death certificates unless you never married.
Family name of deceased
Given Name(s)
Date of death
Place of death
Occupation
Date of birth/age at death
Gender
Usual place of residence
Place of birth
Relationship status at death
Issue - of all relationships - Living males, Deceased males, Living females, Deceased females
Marriage details
Name and family name of last spouse
Age at each marriage
Names of parents
If born overseas - Period of residency in Australia
Date Registered
Registration
Registration officer/district
Endorsements
Cause of death
Medical Attendant
Informant
Many of these categories were "not stated" on the actual certificate. The birthplace was given non-specifically as Tasmania in both cases.
Issue - numerical values rather than the names of children.
Spouses - not stated. No marriage information. Apart from Richard's age at marriage.
Parents and spouse - not stated.
Nanna52 - the informants were the Undertakers.
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Thanks Nova. It is believed that he had been living with someone, don’t know if he married her, and was hoping the death certificate might help. I could not find a death notice, only funeral, to see if it gave any further information. I will keep looking. He had been estranged from his children for many years.
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Let me know if I can be of any assistance. I have just had success in tracing more about my great-grand aunt's life, which I would have thought to be nigh on impossible. I found her partner's certificate. He died in regional QLD. I took a punt on one, always tricky as they just have C for country or even some areas of outer Brisbane. SUCCESS ...