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Title: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: elliot on Saturday 21 June 25 21:56 BST (UK)

John Edward Brown
1917–1994
Birth 18 FEB 1917
Death 26 OCT 1994 • STAFFORD, Staffordshire, England

His father is listed by these initials but of course these might get rearranged!
H R W BROWN [before 1900]
Birth Unknown
Death Unknown

there are two possible men with these three forename initials HRW but in either RAF or RN.

Title: Re: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 21 June 25 22:03 BST (UK)

There's a clue in a newspaper cutting on Ancestry that John, when he marries in 1940 in Rhodesia, is son of HRW and Mrs Brown of Sunningdale

Title: Re: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 21 June 25 22:57 BST (UK)

The 1921 Census has a Harry R W Brown born 1887 with a 4 year old son John (E on image)

This is him in 1911 with future wife Beatrice in the household

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWN3-WB5?lang=en

Title: Re: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 21 June 25 22:58 BST (UK)

I think HRW Brown was a senior manager at a financial institution called the National Discount Company.

There's also an engagement of a younger brother announced in The Times in 1949 which gives the parents address as Shangri La

Title: Re: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Saturday 21 June 25 22:59 BST (UK)

Matches up as 1911 gives us Harry Richard Woodman Brown and the younger son who gets engaged is Peter Woodman Brown

Title: Re: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 21 June 25 23:35 BST (UK)

RN and RAF records suggest both are the same man. Both show dob 8th October, other info on one or the other is Wife B Brown c/o National Discount Company and HRWB born in Holborn.

Title: Re: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: elliot on Sunday 22 June 25 04:36 BST (UK)

MABEL and COMBERTON,
You have helped considerably and I have been able to find a few more records.
They also seem to have had a son with the most uninspiring name of John BROWN!
This might be the boy getting married...
   Lilian L Wakeling
Registration Date   Oct 1933
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District   Brentford
Inferred County   Middlesex
Spouse   John C Brown
Volume Number   3a
Page number   426

Title: Re: Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 22 June 25 21:59 BST (UK)

No that's  not his marriage. According to a newspaper cutting collection on Ancestry


Sgt Pilot John Edward Brown
Parents    H R W & Mrs Brown, Sunningdale

Diane Mary Bridger Philby
Parents  H St. J B Philby CIE and Mrs Philby of 18 Acol Rd, London

Marriage    13 Sep 1940    Umtali S Rhodesia

Birth announcements
4 Feb 1942  Salisbury, S Rhodesia a daughter
22 June 1944 Salisbury, S Rhodesia a son (JEB now  Flying Officer)
23 May 1948  Oslo, a daughter (named, but I won't put in here)  (JEB now Squadron Leader and has a DFC)