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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: CrispyGlitch on Saturday 21 June 25 08:30 BST (UK)
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Hello fellow researchers!
I could use a fresh pair of eyes on a family tree I'm building for my partner – the Haddock family. My research has taken me from Walsall and Kidderminster all the way back through Wales and eventually to Essex and London in the 1400s.
The main point I'm struggling with is the connection to the well-known "Captain Haddocks." I've found another member's tree online that makes a direct link, but I have some doubts and want to be sure before I officially adopt that line.
Would anyone be willing to help me validate the tree I've located? Even just a quick look to see if it seems plausible.
Here is the complete, consolidated male lineage of the Haddock family based on all the images and information you have provided, presented in chronological order from the earliest known ancestor.
* William Haddock (1400-1483), born in Leigh-on-Sea, married Mary Horden (1410-1905)*
* Richard L Haddock Sr (1430-1483), born in Chelmsford.
* Richard Haddock (1480-1538), born in Chelmsford, married Margaret Plomer (1490-1530).
* Robert Haddock (1525-1571), born in Chelmsford, married Margarete Palmer (1526-1570).
* Richard Haddock (also recorded as Captain R Haddock) (c. 1558/1559 - c. 1600/1660), with birthplaces recorded as both Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, and London, married Frances Morgan (1577-1630).
* William Haddock II (1607-1667), born in Essex, married Mary Anne Goodlad (1602-1688).
* Captain J Haddock (1631-1696), born in Essex, married Priscilla Martin (1651-1708).
* William Haddock (1688-1778), born in Backbarrow, married Dorothy Marshall (1692-1756).
* William Haddock (1727-1768), born in Aberavon, married Anne Rawlins (1729-1786).
* Rawlins W Haddock (1754-1828), born in Aberafon, married Elizabeth Williams (1768-1827).
* Joseph Haddock (1789-1854), born in Llangyfelach, married Mary Bennett (1789-1858).
* Joseph Haddock (1815-1875), born in Lydbrook, married Harriet Pritchard (1818-1882).
* Frederick W Haddock (1857-1906), born in Kidderminster, married Jane Oakes (1855-1910).
* Joseph Haddock (1878-1948), born in Kidderminster, married Rachel E Penrice (1881-1959).
* Abraham J Haddock (1904-1976), born in Walsall, married Margaret A Haddock (1907-1979).
*Note: The death year for Mary Horden (1905) is likely a typographical error in the source image, as it would imply a lifespan of 495 years.
I would love for someone to confirm or reassure me.
Thanks for your time!
Chris
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Usually the weak links start in the 1700s and similar. Often the errors are in conflation of multiple people of similar names. A baptism existing for a William or Joseph Haddock does not mean it's the same man who was married half way across the country 25 years later. But other records like wills can help.
I think the most obvious weak point will be around William Haddock (1688-1778), supposedly father in Essex (Joseph Haydocke married Priscilla Martin in London), but he born in Backbarrow in Cumbria, and then went to Wales to have his kids? That's a lot of movement and not in an obvious way like between major port cities.
Now this couple do appear to have had a child William of a similar age, but this man died in 1725 and was probably didn't marry as his will leaves properly only to sisters/nephew. Sure enough, it looks like this was linked on FS at some point but some collaberators have unlinked it due to the will evidence.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/memories/LHT3-LV6
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/collaborate/LHT3-LV6
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There are good resources available online for Essex going back to the 15th century at least. You haven't mentioned what original sources you have used, but the best place to start is the Medieval English Genealogy site (with resources up to about 1600):
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/sources/olmed.shtml
Essex Archives will be very useful:
https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/
This has the 1483 will of Richard Haddok senior of Leigh. (Unfortunately not available online.)
https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk/result_details.aspx?ThisRecordsOffSet=2&id=1059383
Also a search for Common Pleas and Kings/Queens Bench records:
https://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/aalt/cp40_search.php
You can use wildcards, for example Had*o*k, to find spellings like Hadok, Hadock, etc. They are as far away as Northumberland, but also several in Leigh on Sea:
1396 Haddok, William, of Legh
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40no541Index
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no541a/aCP40no541afronts/IMG_0301.htm
1472 Haddok, John, son of Haddok, William, of Leygh, Essex, "muskelman" or husbandman
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/841
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no841/aCP40no841fronts/IMG_0641.htm
1505 Hadok, Richard, of Lee, husbandman
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/Indices/CP40Indices/CP40no971pl.htm
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H7/CP40no971/aCP40no971fronts/IMG_0999.htm
1536 Haddok, William, of Lee, Essex, mariner
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/Indices/CP40Indices/CP40no1088/CP40no1088Pl.htm
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H8/CP40no1088/aCP40no1088fronts/IMG_2100.htm
I suppose muskelman must be about mussels rather than muscles.
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The moving around, and differing locations is something I struggled with too. Thank you for the advice.
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There's at least one person posts on Rootschat with the name Haddock / Haydock / de Haydock who feels he knows a lot about a long ancestral line. Try looking him up, and see if there's anything helpful there.
TY
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There is a will of Richard Haddock, Mariner of Leigh, Essex, 1660. This might tell you more. You can sign in (for free) and get a pdf download of the will for free. This is a very useful service that I use frequently.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3382705
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Amazing, thank you. I'll definitely try this and see where I get to.